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Internet Hitler No Fan of Paul Ryan, But Rick Santorum Is

The usual caveats as to language applies to the above Internet Hitler video.  (What else can one expect from internet Hitler?)  Taking a momentary pit stop in my vacation traveling.  I note with bemusement the debate that has erupted on the blog in regard to Paul Ryan and the attempted questioning of his Catholicism.  I find that utterly bizarre.  In the primaries I supported Rick Santorum.  Santorum has enthusiastically endorsed Romney’s pick of Ryan. 

Here is a video below from earlier this year in which Santorum praised Ryan’s budget, with the caveat that it did not go far enough in cuts:

Now, from a left-wing perspective I can see how both Santorum and Ryan would be anathema.  I find it difficult however to see how anyone could view Santorum as a reasoned proponent of conservatism and a champion of Catholic positions on the social issues, and also view Ryan as anathema.  That simply does not make any sense at all.  Well, having tossed that hand grenade into the debate, I return to my vacation sabbatical.  Have fun in the comboxes!

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PM
Tuesday, August 14, AD 2012 12:49pm

Pit stop eloquence:

” Taking a momentary pit stop in my vacation traveling. I note with bemusement the debate that has erupted on the blog in regard to Paul Ryan and the attempted questioning of his Catholicism. I find that utterly bizarre. In the primaries I supported Rick Santorum. Santorum has enthusiastically endorsed Romney’s pick of Ryan.

I find it difficult however to see how anyone could view Santorum as a reasoned proponent of conservatism and a champion of Catholic positions on the social issues, and also view Ryan as anathema. That simply does not make any sense at all.”

Thank you, Donald McClarey, for helpful, prioritizing, and clear (Clar?) words with talking pictures at this point – and so soon after Sat. 8/11 at 9:00 and so sadly balloons popping during vacation.

Enjoy. Stay out of the Klingon place. I liked your Vacation 2012 cartoon.

Lisa Graas
Tuesday, August 14, AD 2012 12:50pm

He also said the bishops were wrong. He also was supporting a bill that was on the table at the time for passage, while his own plan as a presidential candidate was much different. He didn’t want to just cut taxes on the wealthy because they are wealthy. He had a zero rate for manufacturers so there would be incentive for job creation. Unfortunately, the Randians in the party believe that to be “unfair” (to whom? the wealthy?) and opposed it.

Lisa Graas
Tuesday, August 14, AD 2012 12:53pm

PM, the social issues are now off the table with the blessing of Paul Ryan.

Chris in Maryland
Chris in Maryland
Tuesday, August 14, AD 2012 3:05pm

To Lisa Graas et al concerned with the Social Issues:

Social issues have never and will never be on the table for those that favor the current administration. The ObamaCare cop-out by Catholic Democrat Congressman was the final proof of that.

For those opposed to the current administration who keep social issues as a top priority, we need to remind ourselves that if we don’t rescue the republic from this administration, which is openly hostile to the U.S. Constitution, then there won’t be any country left to convince about social issues. Like Merry said to Pippin in The Lord of the Rings – if we don’t win this fight, “there isn’t going to be a Shire.”

Bonchamps
Tuesday, August 14, AD 2012 3:29pm

“He also said the bishops were wrong.”

They are. That earns him points in my book.

Chris in Maryland
Chris in Maryland
Tuesday, August 14, AD 2012 3:32pm

I second the motion by Bonchamps!

Mary De Voe
Tuesday, August 14, AD 2012 7:32pm

Anyone who votes for Obama is a “useful idiot”.

Lisa Graas
Tuesday, August 14, AD 2012 7:34pm

Anyone who votes for either party is a useful idiot.

edmund burk
edmund burk
Tuesday, August 14, AD 2012 11:17pm

@CHRIS IN MARYLAND- the progressives in the democratic party have proven that social
positions ARE important to them, everything from open gays in the military, gay marriage,
unlimited abortion on demand and stricter gun control. that’s what makes this choice so difficult. Mitt Romney is NO social conservative and for that matter, neither is Paul Ryan.
But this should be clear to anyone who follows politics. There is a split in the Rebuplican
party, between CINO (conservative in name only) aided and abetted by liberterains. and social conservatives. It doesn’t take a Dick Morris to see which faction controls the Republican party. It is time for a more conservative socially and more financially responsible third party.

Chris in Maryland
Chris in Maryland
Wednesday, August 15, AD 2012 12:26am

Sorry Edmund – Paul Ryan has a 100% rating on Pro-Life issues AND the liberal Bishops came out against his budget.

Jeb Bush = RINO/CINO…YES. Ryan…please… Come to think of it…maybe you work for Jeb Bush?

On the other hand, its always in season to encourage liberals to vote again for Ralph Nader.

Lisa Graas
Wednesday, August 15, AD 2012 12:35am

Speaking of Dick Morris THIS

Lisa Graas
Wednesday, August 15, AD 2012 12:36am

Paul Ryan abstained on the Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act.

Chris in Maryland
Chris in Maryland
Wednesday, August 15, AD 2012 1:09am

I think Lisa is really David Axelrod…sorry David…I’ve had enough of Chicago.

Lisa Graas
Wednesday, August 15, AD 2012 1:30am

Calling me names, questioning my intentions, etc., really helps to shore up your reputation for being a charitable person. No, wait…

WK Aiken
WK Aiken
Wednesday, August 15, AD 2012 7:37am

“There is a split in the Rebuplican party, between CINO (conservative in name only) aided and abetted by liberterains. and social conservatives. It doesn’t take a Dick Morris to see which faction controls the Republican party. It is time for a more conservative socially and more financially responsible third party.”

Oddly, we Liberterains are haltingly trying to create a third party ourselves, present crisis notwithstanding, that looks forward to a time when the Federal government returns to its proper, Consitutionally-defined role of limited and enumerated oversight of specific areas of the nation’s business, leaving the rest to states, municipalities and we the people ourselves.

Such a party has a slim chance of ever becoming an effective body, though, in that its raison d’etre is its own obsolescence, a cause that’s unworkably oxymoronic in a political sense.

Just remember that there is a world of difference between Liberty and license. While neither desire to be externally governed, that is where the similarity ends and the paths diverge in diametrically opposite directions. Liberty informs the individual person with self-government whereas license negates government of any sort. Liberty and The Church are essentially consubstantial because they both require and reinforce correct personal action without coersion. Where The Church leads, Liberty follows; where Liberty thrives, The Church is a City on a Hill. The fascist Left uses license as its primary weapon to create the vaccum of chaos which then necessitates corecively imposed order; it must nullify The Church in order to achieve its goals. Liberty is sine qua non to our nation’s continued existence. License is the poison that will destroy us. Know the difference.

jvc
jvc
Wednesday, August 15, AD 2012 8:05am

Lisa continues with her false witness against Paul Ryan. And I continue to say shame on Lisa for distorting the record and character of a faithful, practicing Catholic. Go off with your friend George Soros into the political wilderness and leave us alone.

jvc
jvc
Wednesday, August 15, AD 2012 8:14am

I see on Lisa’s website that Lisa is a big supporter, or something, of Sarah Palin. Palin holds the EXACT SAME viewpoints on fiscal policy as Paul Ryan. In fact, she was one of the FIRST politicians in the ENTIRE COUNTRY to endorse Paul Ryan’s Roadmap to fix Social Security and Medicare.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703766704576009322838245628.html

jvc
jvc
Wednesday, August 15, AD 2012 8:15am

I guess Sarah Palin hates the poor and wants to gut all welfare programs, too. What a Randian!

Foxfier
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Thursday, August 16, AD 2012 2:40am

Bonchamps says:
Tuesday, August 14, 2012 A.D. at 3:29pm (Edit)
“He also said the bishops were wrong.”

They are. That earns him points in my book.

Agreed.

The USCCB– which is usually what folks mean by “the Bishops,” even though it’s not exactly right– being wrong in their totally non binding ideas isn’t exactly news.

Same way I like GK Chesterton, but I’m not sure I’d dive right into the financial philosophies of someone who the only thing I know of his economic powers is rumors he was so bad he had to wire for money to take the train. Doesn’t make him a bad Catholic, just not someone you want to follow blindly for budget stuff.

Donna V.
Donna V.
Friday, August 17, AD 2012 7:10pm

Foxfier: Exactly!! How much training in economics or budget issues have the Bishops had? For that matter, does anybody posting here have one tenth of the knowledge Ryan has about the federal deficient and the economic disaster that is right ahead of us?

Lisa, you don’t seem to grasp that if the entitlement programs are not reformed, there will be nothing for anybody when the government runs out of money. And stop this business about the “poor.” Yes, there are genuinely needy and we should help them. There are also people scamming the system for every cent they can get. (A well-known scam around here involves people using food stamps to get bags of frozen lobster tails and shrimp and other expensive items and then selling the lobster tails at half market price.) Is that “social justice?” Does Catholic charity demand that I be OK with that? Are only rich people capable of the sin of greed?

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