And you all think that Thanksgiving is about thanking Almighty God and having a great meal! Allahpundit at Hot Air sets us straight:
Go here to read the rest. The Obama cultists have attempted before to turn Thanksgiving into a political forum before. I will repeat now what I wrote then:
I love politics and I love to debate politics, and I think this is utterly bizarre. We have a wonderful holiday here today and all the political mavens at the DCCC can think of is yet another day to fight political battles? This is crazy and does their side absolutely no good.
I wish all our readers a happy and resolutely non-political Thanksgiving! Reserve the political cudgels for other days. Today is for thanking the Almighty, stuffing ourselves and assuming the comatose position in front of the TV, sacred Thanksgiving traditions that I am striving mightly to pass on to my offspring!
Remember, no politics at the dinner table on Thanksgiving!
This has got to be the best idea since the suggestion of some self-appointed health experts a couple of years back, that the holidays were a great time to remind your overweight relatives about the dangers of obesity…
If you read the letter carefully, though, it does NOT say that the reader should initiate dinner table discussions of Obamacare, it simply offers talking points for responding if one is asked about it (“when people turn to you”), or for joining in a discussion that has already begun (“Sometimes it’s easier to just let all those rants go without getting involved”).
The best line in this letter has to be “Chances are, folks at the dinner table probably look to you mostly as a voice of reason on the subject.” Really? They’re going to look to a hardcore Obama supporter who signed up to be on the Organizing for Action mail/e-mail list as a “voice of reason?”
Ha! I beat them too it, and with a stranger (two actually). Insurance and what not came up naturally in conversation. . .on the tennis court of all places. We all agree ObamaCare is a disaster, and I’m likely to lose my insurance next year during the second round of health insurance cancellations.
“I beat them TO it . . .” I know where the boys get their dyslexia.
I don’t engage in conversation with people for whose opinions I have no respect. So, I can’t ask, “For what are you thankful this year?”
It’s all lies. Lies. All lies.
Here’s my coined response to my relative Obama-worshiping idiots: “Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame in me. Fool me for five years, I’m an obama voter.”
Should I keep the talking points folded in my pocket for easy reference to spring my enlighten superior intellect on my unwitting, ignorant, hate filled, racist, parochial, gun clinging family members? Oh what burden we, the best and brightest, have to bear being saddled with uncles (and other family members) such as we have. I like the idea of the PowerPoint – can someone feed me that too so I do not have to think too hard or do any work. With a PowerPoint , I can do a much better job of talking down to my family. Do not think I am not thankful for anything . . . I thank god or gods or goddess or spirits or force or whatever. . . that I only have to sit with the unintellectual masses once a year! Now, where is my tobacco pipe and tweed jacket with patches on the elbows, I want to sit down and read the new issue of the Occupy America magazine.
I enjoy how patronizing they are about those silly old uncles spouting off at the dinner table. It is making assumptions about the “family” that does not exist in the modern liberal idea of family. (A family is any group that decides it is a family.)
It just oozes with condescension, clichés, paternalism, and oversimplification.
And with that I wish Happy Thanksgiving to all and to all a good night . . . or something like that.
Yup. I guarantee you, more people are going to be sharing their health insurance stories this year than any Thanksgiving before. At some tables, that’s all they’re going to talk about.
“uncles everywhere feel the need to spout off about Obamacare.”
I read that first sentence and thought the rest of the letter was going to be a parody about uncles who want to tell you how wonderful America will be when everyone “gets covered.”
What I have to say to Obama about his Obamacare and all of his legions of doom is quite unprintable. Godless, iniquitous, diabolical man of sin and depravity.
It is reasonable, from the standpoint of a secularist mindset, that Thanksgiving dinner would be an opportune and effective setting for healthcare discussion. To someone who reads the holiday in a religious light, it is irreverent. It comes down to how we value our priorities. Christians will probably feel Thanksgiving is a time to focus upon God and the debt of gratitude we owe him. To discuss health insurance matters during that time would be inappropriate.
It is reasonable from the stand point of a political opportunist to view every disaster as an opportunity to advance their cause – it does not in actuality make is so . . . our society may be so harden as not to view it as such but bad manners are still bad manners. (See “You don’t ever want a crisis to go to waste; it’s an opportunity to do important things that you would otherwise avoid.” – Rahm Emanuel). Thanksgiving is a time to be thankful for what we have and reestablish family connections. It is not a time to advance your political position. I am not saying it does not happen but I tend to agree with Miss Manners on this topic:
But to be polite — and for that matter, to be effective — those with opposing views must be respectful and fair. That requires listening to the other’s argument and conceding when convinced. And it means confining the discussion to the subject matter, eschewing personal criticism.
Miss Manners’ Guide to the Turn-of-the-Millennium” that discussing financial matters is generally considered in poor taste, whether the financial matters are yours or someone else’s. Other taboo topics are religion, sex and politics, according to Martin. Although these topics are fascinating to many, they can cause emotions to run high, resulting in major disagreements among guests and a ruined dinner party.
Crises are indeed moments of opoportunity. Revolutionaries have sometimes hoped to create them in order to usher in change. Thanks for your comments.
While Miss Manners may have an issue with discussing religion during a holiday dinner, I certainly don’t. As a Christian, I have to disagree with her on that. In the case of Thanksgiving, it’s hard to imagine giving thanks if no Creator exists, and the Christian God is the inspiration for this yearly thanksgiving.
It is unfortunate that people attribute their success to themselves oftentimes. If one reflects properly, they’ll see they are part of a vast, intricate web of interdependency with the Almighty God orchestrating all things. It is also a terrible thing when Thanksgiving is equated wtih eating a well-cooked turkey with sides. Happy Turkey-Day simply isn’t adequate–it indicates profound ignorance and reduces the day to one of gluttony. That simply won’t do.
Honestly, I hate Thanksgiving for personal, childhood-wound reasons, but I guess I should be thanking God Almighty that my parents & sister are conservative, and cannot stand anything having to do with Obama. While I think the phrase, “It could be worse,” is extremely mean to say to people who are suffering, I do think can fit in well this Thanksgiving, in light of the propaganda going around.
Ace of Spades’ Turkey Day tip: “Hey remember when you said that ObamaCare was going to work great, and then, when people asked you how it actually worked, you sort of implied they were stupid for not knowing, and yet you never provided any evidence that you had any idea of how it was supposed to work yourself? Yeah, you were wrong then, too.”
People want to discuss ObamaCare on Thanksgiving Day because it’s the largest turkey in America.
Missy: Das dicke ende kommt noch. Which is very bad for the worldies, not so much for people of Faith: God fits the back for the burden: offer it up.
Jon, I agree with you in that my family thanks God for his blessings on Thanksgiving . . . if I have guests over I do not brow beat them with the Bible instead I try evangelize by example. It is a slower process but one I am more comfortable with. As an aside, I have found over time that confrontation is not the most effective form of changing someone’s opinion or views. Telling someone they are wrong or an idiot is not an effective method to win someone over. Pointing out flaws in their logic and then letting them come to their own conclusion is more effective. As for crisis, you seem to be agreeing with liberals that you can do anything you want as long as it advances your cause. I am sorry but I do not believe that the end justifies the means. It may be effective in the short run to get where you are going but how many wrong acts end in a just society? Is it better to lose your soul in your rush to an ends or is it better to lose the fight but keep your soul? I know my choice but God gives us free will so you can make yours. Please understand that I am a highly flawed man but with God grace I shall be healed.