PopeWatch: Meeting With Sinners

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VATICAN-POPE-AUDIENCE

 

 

Rorate Caeli brings us this little tidbit:

 

 

Spanish periodical Hoy reveals the private meeting in the Vatican of “Diego” Neria Lejárraga, a woman from Plasencia, Spain, and her “wife”[“fiancée”, see second Update.]
Excerpts:


[Hoy, in Spanish. Tip: reader. ]

[Update: information confirmed in Italian reports in Corriere della Sera, Repubblica, Il Giornale, etc.]

PopeWatch assumes that the defense of this bizarre event will be that Christ met with sinners, and that is certainly true.  However, Christ never gave an indication that He condoned their sins.  Leaving the impression that a sinner’s sins are not sins is the very opposite of mercy and is a complete abdication of the spiritual responsibility of a priest of Christ.

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24 Comments

  1. Compare the Pope’s reaction to this confused woman to the pregnant mother of seven he berated. Both deserved kindness but only the woman engaged in heroic Catholic virtue gets the back of his hand.

    The Church of Francis in a nutshell, ladies and gentlemen. You can have it.

  2. We are missing key data. Is this Diego a real female with a mental disorder and an obstinate will toward making herself a man. Sin big time materially…and the usurpation of the Godhead’s dominion. Or is Diego really a chimera…ie a person with two genders and diverse organs in him/her due to fraternal twin (boy/girl) eggs merging into one person after fertilization? In which case, the CDF should have a person assigned to this rare but increasing problem thanks to in vitro which multiplies twinning’s occurrence greatly.?…and the CDF should make a public statement on the morality of such surgeries in the exact instance of the chimera, mosaics etc. who in some cases have partial sex organs of both genders. The Pope once again should clarify which situation is this because he and all he does has macro repercussions in the sense of moral example. There is no private meeting in the full sense when he does anything.

  3. Let us hope the pontiff was able to show where the “peace” came from. From Jesus’ compassion yes, and to continue reception of His peace the free will gift of celibacy from each partner is vital.

    The teaching moment and lesson given is unknown to us. The man reached out to pf. If pf used this moment as PR only than shame is on him. If he Sheppard the lost sheep then God bless him.

  4. Among the Spiritual Works of Mercy:
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    Admonish the sinner.
    Counsel the doubtful.
    Instruct the ignorant.
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    It seems as if PF, and many liberals, favor the things of this world over the rewards of eternal life, which exceed all transitory delights.
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    “Jesus turned and said to Peter, ‘Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men.’”

    Matthew 16, 23

  5. They were invited and met at the Vatican, but what happened at the meeting? Did Pope Francis condone the situation? What did he say or do specifically?

  6. I thought it was already explained since judgment that he is condoning the situation has come. I would hope the pope took the opportunity to start Lejárraga on a course correction. Describing the visit as “marvelous” isn’t what I would expect from someone who has been corrected. (It’s possible though.) Not a good sign and also not proof of what was condone or condemned.

  7. Oh man, I don’t know which is more entertaining: watching Patriot fans squirm trying to defend Brady and Bellicheat, or neoCats trying to explain this one away.

  8. In 1st Corinthians Chapter 5 St. Paul commanded the Church at Corinth to hand over to Satan for the destruction of his flesh a man who was sleeping with his father’s wife. If St. Paul commanded that for incest, then what would he command for this sexual perversion?
    .
    This is all about creeping totalitarianism as a recent article at Crisis Magazine explains:
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    http://www.crisismagazine.com/2015/totalitarianism-sex-marriage
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    Our view – natural law – will be denigrated as hate speech, and on that basis we will be marginalized, then sued in court, then imprisoned and finally executed. This is the beginning. And this time the problem isn’t relegated to a single country but spans the globe.

  9. I should image the meeting involved a discussion about
    the “Devil’s Daughter’s” parish priest who had offended
    D.D. and what remedy Francis should seek to change
    attitudes within the Church. No doubt Francis was invited
    to attend the great event, their wedding. And I assume he
    will bless their wedding with his presences.

    Further, Francis has called on all Catholics to reject apologetic
    arguments.
    So defending the Faith is now frowned upon.

  10. Some recent remarks of Cardinal Rodriguez at Santa Clara University may be in point here: “And so, this is why it is never going to be approved, a marriage between persons of the same sex. This is not the plan of God. We read it clearly from the first pages of Genesis, marriage is the union of a man and a woman. Okay, but that doesn’t mean that we are going to be excluding persons who live their faith and would like to be parts of the Church. One thing is defining marriage, another thing is pastoral care. This is what I believe will make road in the Synod.”
    I would be surprised, if the Holy Father said anything about the meeting in public, until he had conferred with the local ordinary.

  11. “So defending the Faith is now frowned upon.”

    For the Church of the Left it has been for a long time. That because the Faith did not represent their faith – that is material progress and social reconstruction.

    That is why my diocese did away with teaching the Faith in RCIA a number of years ago. The purpose of RCIA was, they claimed, was to teach people to love and imitate Jesus. Of course Jesus was a “social justice” Jesus who sought to end income inequality etc.

    Nothing new under the sun here. Only now one of them is Pope.

  12. Paul Primavera’s link may be the crystal ball and if it is the future of America be prepared to celebrate Holy Mass as the early Christian’s did, in secret.

    The late Fr. John Hardon predicted this for America if good Catholics didn’t return to the Sacraments and partake of them worthily. It’s possible his prediction will be realized. The forces of evil will swell up prior to the battle of battles. The stolen Rainbow will be recognized for what it originally symbolized. The sign from and of God.
    Poor choice for the gay proud. Very poor choice.

  13. “I would be surprised, if the Holy Father said anything about the meeting in public, until he had conferred with the local ordinary.”

    MPS, I thought that in Rome the Pope IS the local ordinary.

  14. bill bannon, ambiguous genitalia is simply that. True hermaphroditism has never been documented in a human being. Ultimately everyone is either male or female, and these characteristics exist in the brain regardless of genitalia. We have seen how sex reassignment therapy is largely a failure in such cases.

  15. “Our view – natural law – will be denigrated as hate speech, and on that basis we will be marginalized, then sued in court, then imprisoned and finally executed.”

    Paul, if secular democracies hold true to their ideals there will be no imprisonment and execution. Christianity will be seen as a mental illness, it’s adherents treated and medicated, perhaps in asylums but also possibly in home care settings. And when the inevitable brain damage occurs they will be euthanized. It will all be done with compassion, you see.

    Then again, perhaps not, since our view is not only natural law but the Gospel itself. Can secular democracy survive without the Gospel?

  16. TomD

    You omit to mention cases of mosaicism, where some cells have XX and some XY chromosomes (46, XX/XY) Such individuals may have both testicular and ovarian tissue (ovotestes) with associated hormonal production. The phenotype is variable.

    “Male” and “Female” are labels and whether we use the external genetalia, the internal genetalia or the chromosomes as our criterion is ultimately a matter of choice – a gerealisation, not a law (invariable regularity) and, still less a “cause” (whatever that much-abused word means)

  17. I would deny that mosaicism really constitutes a difference with regards the brain function. In nearly every case one type of cells would predominate over the other with regards to neurological activity, and so chromosomes do not determine gender. An even more interesting such situation is Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome, which results in a person who is 100% genetically male and nearly 100% physically female (lacking only ovaries and a uterus). For our purposes here it would not make any sense to describe these individuals as anything other than female.

    The real issue is that ambiguous genitalia situations can make childrearing difficult in the absence of a clear diagnosis. I guess this is where our vaunted ‘compassion’ really gets a workout.

  18. Oh man, I don’t know which is more entertaining: watching Patriot fans squirm trying to defend Brady and Bellicheat, or neoCats trying to explain this one away.

    I think at this point you will not find many commentators Christopher Ferrara described as ‘neo-Catholic’ making excuses for Francis, leaving aside those on the payroll at Catholic Answers and the Register. And I’m not even sure about all of them.

  19. *headdesk* Of course there’s a place for her in God’s house, but that doesn’t mean throwing things at Himself is going to be alright!

    How very sad.

  20. Compare the Pope’s reaction to this confused woman to the pregnant mother of seven he berated.

    I’d missed that one. P.U. I’m beginning to think the Borgia crooks were less troublesome.

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