Screw the Candlelight Vigil

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I fully endorse these sentiments of Mark Steyn.  Until the West gets serious about the threat posed by Islamic radicalism, nothing will change:

 

As I write, Paris is under curfew for the first time since the German occupation, and the death toll from the multiple attacks stands at 158, the vast majority of them slaughtered during a concert at the Bataclan theatre, a delightful bit of 19th century Chinoiserie on the boulevard Voltaire. The last time I was there, if memory serves, was to see Julie Pietri. I’m so bloody sick of these savages shooting and bombing and killing and blowing up everything I like – whether it’s the small Quebec town where my little girl’s favorite fondue restaurant is or my favorite hotel in Amman or the brave freespeecher who hosted me in Copenhagen …or a music hall where I liked to go to hear a little jazz and pop and get away from the cares of the world for a couple of hours. But look at the photographs from Paris: there’s nowhere to get away from it; the barbarians who yell “Allahu Akbar!” are there waiting for you …when you go to a soccer match, you go to a concert, you go for a drink on a Friday night. They’re there on the train… at the magazine office… in the Kosher supermarket… at the museum in Brussels… outside the barracks in Woolwich…

Twenty-four hours ago, I said on the radio apropos the latest campus “safe space” nonsense:

This is what we’re going to be talking about when the mullahs nuke us.

Almost. When the Allahu Akbar boys opened fire, Paris was talking about the climate-change conference due to start later this month, when the world’s leaders will fly in to “solve” a “problem” that doesn’t exist rather than to address the one that does. But don’t worry: we already have a hashtag (#PrayForParis) and doubtless there’ll be another candlelight vigil of weepy tilty-headed wankers. Because as long as we all advertise how sad and sorrowful we are, who needs to do anything?

 

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He ends this cri de coeur piece with this:

To repeat what I said a few days ago, I’m Islamed out. I’m tired of Islam 24/7, at Colorado colleges, Marseilles synagogues, Sydney coffee shops, day after day after day. The west cannot win this thing with a schizophrenic strategy of targeting things and people but not targeting the ideology, of intervening ineffectually overseas and not intervening at all when it comes to the remorseless Islamization and self-segregation of large segments of their own countries.

So I say again: What’s the happy ending here? Because if M Hollande isn’t prepared to end mass Muslim immigration to France and Europe, then his “pitiless war” isn’t serious. And, if they’re still willing to tolerate Mutti Merkel’s mad plan to reverse Germany’s demographic death spiral through fast-track Islamization, then Europeans aren’t serious. In the end, the decadence of Merkel, Hollande, Cameron and the rest of the fin de civilisation western leadership will cost you your world and everything you love.

So screw the candlelight vigil.

 

Go here to read the rest.  The West is at war and our worthless leaders wish to ignore that hard fact, while they merrily import Islamic “refugees” into our nations to ensure unending strife on our own soils.

When asked if this is part of the “piecemeal Third World War” the Holy Father has mentioned many times before, Pope Francis said “this is a piece of it,” adding “there is no religious or human justification for it.”

Yep, and thanks to the mindset he embraces and celebrates we are in the process of losing that war.

 

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66 Comments

  1. What western leaders in both secular and Church circles seem unable to understand when they drone on with their “No to war.” schitck is that they are endorsing the very thing that makes war necessary.

  2. Yes, that was a great piece. He gets the mood of many of us precisely right, even if we haven’t quite had the courage or the skill to say it that way. That’s one mark of a fine writer.

  3. Amici et Amicae,
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    I am changing my pseudonym (to the name of a man who assumed power only for the duration of a crisis, and then surrendered it to return to his family and farm once the crisis was past) when commenting because there are liberal progressives who will act against anyone having a point of view not their own. They will first harass, demean and marginalize. Then they will take action to dismiss from employment and to bring to court. Finally the real persecution starts: jail, torture and execution. It happened in Mexico under Plutarco Elias Calles in the early 20th century. It can happen here in the United States.
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    I agree with what Mark Steyn has stated. Islam has been at war with the rest of humanity ever since Mohammed set across the sands of Arabia in the 7th century AD. Are there moderate Islamists who oppose violence? Yes, and I have worked with some, one even having been my department manager. But as a religion, as an ideology, Islam is poisonous and inherently violent. Have there been wicked Christians who have perpetrated violence in the name of Christ? Yes, but neither Christianity nor other religions like Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism, Shintoism, etc has a holy book like the Koran which demands dhimmitude or execution of those who refuse to believe in Islam. Therefore, Islam has to be eradicated. I do NOT say that those who innocently hold Islamic beliefs should be eradicated. There is a distinguishing difference here.
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    I will add that liberal progressives who murder unborn babies and sell their organs on the open market, who sanctify filthy, putrid homosexual behavior as marriage, are no different than the radical Islamists who crucify Christians, behead news journalists, and set bombs off in suicide missions. Both should be treated in the same way: brought to justice and tried for crimes against humanity. But sadly that is not going to happen any time soon.
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    I also think that since we as Western civilization have abandoned in our laws and our culture our obedience to the Lord Jesus Christ through our liberalism and progressivism, then we cannot expect God to protect us from the Islamists. He will likely do what he did with Israel and Judah in their apostasy – He abandoned them to military defeat and deportation by Assyria and Babylon respectively.
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    Yes, death to Islam and to liberalism. Not death to people, but death to demonic ideologies that murder people.

  4. “Greece’s junior minister for migration Yiannis Mouzalas admitted in September that it would be “foolish” to completely discount the possibility of jihadists sneaking into Europe among the refugee wave.

    Over 800,000 people have crossed the Mediterranean to Europe this year, with over 3,400 dying in the process.” —Yahoo News (an always credible source), Nov. 15, 2015

    Later, much like the “Holy Father” — whose main focus this past year has been on wealth redistribution and climate change, not on his fantasy of a “piecemeal Third World War” —
    Greek prime minister Alexis Tsipras defended the mass immigration:

    “Tsipras on Saturday insisted that the refugees fleeing Syria “are hunted by the same terrorists” that struck in Paris on Friday.

    “We must find solutions to the drama of the people who leave their homes, hunted by the same terrorists, and drown in the Mediterranean,” Tsipras said in a televised address.”

    In other words, the same policies will remain in place.

  5. It is true that the West cannot win this war without attacking the Islamic ideology. At the same time it is true that the West has no spiritual resources to do this. In Europe, Christianity is dead. For the modern, secular West there’s only one way to get rid of Islamism: A ban on all religion. The terrible thing is that about 80% of the Europeans are practically atheistic and secularist. There’s only one major robust religion with real impact, Islam. The other religions, Catholicism, Protestantism, Judaism, are just tiny and fragile fragments of what they once were. That’s why the preferred long-term political option to effectively deal with Islam is simply to criminalize all religion.

  6. The sole distinction between the rest of Islam and the extremist terrorists is the rest of Islam hasn’t gone tactical . . yet.
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    Don’t be fooled. They also serve who only sit and wait; and quarter jihadis; and feed jihadis; and arm jihadis; and pay jihadis; and that, my children, is the rest of Islam that hasn’t gone tactical . . .yet.

  7. In furtherance to Mr. Sevenster’s post, C.J. Martindale, speaking of monastic life set up by St. Benedict, wrote:

    “When the Barbarians, the Huns, Goths, Franks, Vandals, swept into the western half of the Empire, they crashed up against three immovable facts – the Papacy, the Bishops with their cathedral churches and their schools, and the monasteries. A chaotic mind is always awestruck by an orderly one; violence is impotent before fearlessness; moral or social anarchy very soon yields to a Will firmly set toward what is right, a way of life that tends steadily toward men’s betterment. And the monasteries were centers of grim study, steadfast instruction, development of agriculture, of ever-improving handicraft, of respect for authority, of orderliness of mind, of discipline of the will. You never can begin to calculate what Europe, and England herself, owe to the monks.”

  8. “I sure wasn’t taught anything about him– anybody know enough to tell me if this source is accurate enough?”
    The linked article has problems:
    1. Too much certainty about what Martel was thinking. (This is not a well documented period of history.)
    2. It exaggerates disputes between Rome and Martel.

    New Advent has a good, if dated, article on Martel, a truly fascinating figure:

    http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03629a.htm

  9. Mark Steyn gets it right, as usual, and I’m glad I’m not the only one who wanted to punch the guy singing “Imagine.” Those candles and the people lighting them belong in church. Anyway, thank goodness for our ever-changing climate, so liberals can continue to rail against a boogeyman that will never actually harm them.

  10. Mark’s got it right. The first thing we should pray for is a new Pope, someone like Pius V. We need a world wide Christian spiritual leader who will proclaim the truth and inspire holiness.

  11. “…the preferred long-term political option to effectively deal with Islam is simply to criminalize all religion.”

    Why criminalize those religions, which by atrophy and secularization, are already a non-threat? Won’t banning Islam merely drive it into the modern-day version of the catacombs?

  12. It is true that the West cannot win this war without attacking the Islamic ideology.

    I am not sure it is possible anymore to “innocently hold Islamic beliefs.”

    The sole distinction between the rest of Islam and the extremist terrorists is the rest of Islam hasn’t gone tactical . . yet.

    I think suppressing the corporate bodies with the bombs and the guns, controlling immigration, and laying waste Iranian nuclear facilities will be a sufficiently consuming task. Not sure what the rest of you have in mind.

  13. DonL

    Recall « l’affaire du voile » in France over the wearing of the hijab by Muslim girls in public schools.

    The National Assembly passed a law banning it, along with other “conspicuous religious symbols.”

    In February 2004, a survey by CSA for Le Parisien showed 69% of the population for the ban and 29% against. For Muslims in France, the February survey showed 42% for and 53% against. Interestingly, among surveyed Muslim women, 49% approved the proposed law, and 43% opposed it (Economist Feb 5 2004)

    Not a few Muslim women in France are opposed to the more repressive aspects of their own religion. The president of the Muslim women’s movement, « Ni Putes Ni Soumises » [Neither Sluts nor Door-mats] Sihem Habchi, in a forceful attack on “multiculturalism” has demanded “No more justifications of our oppression in the name of the right to be different and of respect toward those men who force us to bow our heads”
    Similarly, Fadela Amara, another Muslim and former Secretary of State for Urban Policies has declared that “For this generation, the crucial issues are laïcité, gender equality and gender desegregation…”
    Rachida Dati, Minister of Justice (garde des Sceaux) and herself a Muslim, gave a thoughtful defence of the ban. “Pupils’ freedom of conscience, which is an internal freedom, in no way gives them ‘the right to express and manifest their religious beliefs’ in educational institutions, for that involves external acts which improperly introduce religion into the public domain of the school.”

  14. Christianity is nearly comatose in WESTERN Europe, the nations run by fools who have let Muslims in for decades.
    You will NOT see in the media the protests taking place against allowing Muslims to resettle that are taking place in Hungary, Poland and their neighbors. Christianity is not exactly robust through all of Central Europe, but it is a lot stronger than in Western Europe. Poland’s ruling political party has said NO to any Muslim refugees.
    Notice that Al Qaeda and ISIS has left that part of Europe alone.

  15. DonL

    I should have added that the headscarf ban was challenged on religious freedom grounds. The Conseil d’Etat, after reciting the various constitutional and statutory guarantees, dismissed the challenge in a single sentence: “but considering that the law of 15 March 2004 is concerned with actions, not opinions, for this reason [par ce motif] rejects…”

  16. MPS
    I appreciate your info on Muslim women not necessarily buying into all aspects of the radical’s idea of Islam. Perhaps a good campaign to agitate that divide might bring about what a war can’t? We certainly have perfected the divide and agitate in America.

  17. Posted by D.J. Hesselius – “I am not sure it is possible anymore to “innocently hold Islamic beliefs.”
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    Precisely!

  18. The West is at war
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    Islam is at war. The West is at the mall, or on the campus green protesting adulthood, or obsessing over climate, gay rights, Bruce Jenner’s fashion-sense, etc. etc. etc.

  19. The National Assembly passed a law banning it, along with other “conspicuous religious symbols.”

    An Alan Paton character modeled on Prime Minister Daniel Malan had this bit of dialogue in Ah, But Your Land is Beautiful: “I am not going to make myself look ridiculous by prohibiting someone from wearing a particular type of cap”.

    The Conseil d’Etat, after reciting the various constitutional and statutory guarantees,

    Weird that the French legal system put the matter in front of an administrative tribunal, as if the plaintiffs were jonesing for social security benefits.

  20. “Islam is at war. The West is at the mall, or on the campus green protesting adulthood, or obsessing over climate, gay rights, Bruce Jenner’s fashion-sense, etc. etc. etc.”

    Wrong. The reality is as I stated it, and reality never is changed by the steadfast wish of any number of people to ignore it. If this blog has recurring themes, that is one of them.

  21. I’ll try to clarify. Islam is at war with the West; the West is not at war with Islam, to its detriment.

  22. Relayed Nov 14th, via e-mail, stark observation from a Catholic living in Versailles:

    “Here in Versailles, we are quiet; but Paris is a Babylon. France is in danger because it is punished for its infidelity. The patience of God is limited. Islam is the consequence of our apostasy.”

  23. I’ve always thought Ann Coulter had the right idea.

    She said something along the lines of “we need to invade their countries, kill their leaders, and convert them to Christianity”. Not a promising plan.

  24. I am heartened by all of your comments on this post- intelligence and passion. Except for the “Bring out your dead” comment from Ronald Sevenster– ” It may be only a couple of minutes” a la Monty Python’s Holy Grail – our culture and European culture is lacking much no doubt, but we do have hope. Capitulation is no answer.
    Jesus brought Lazarus back—

  25. Conrad’s Kurtz in Heart of Darkness had it correctly, “Exterminate all the Brutes!”
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    Iliad Book XXI, “Strong Hatred defender of peoples.” The ancients saw as demi-gods, and gave names to, hatred, panic, terror, etc. Greek words for Terror and Panic were names of Ares’ (god of war, post-modern scholars) chariot horses.
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    When will the West begin to hate? Apparently not after they murdered 3,000 on 11 Sep 2001. Not when they murdered hundreds of Spaniards in 2003. Let’s see about the slaughtered 129 in Paris. Seems as if this is a job for the Foreign Legion (the French don’t care if none returns).
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    Truth is Obama, liberals, and jihadis are kindred spirits. They are out to destroy Western Civilization and our liberty and property. In short, the “brutes” are liberals and mass-murdering jihadis.

  26. Seen on “Never Yet Melted” blog. “Head of Interpol Proposes Armed citizenry as Antidote to Terrorism.”
    .
    For nearly a century, liberals have tried to disarm us so they and now jihadis can have their way over us.
    ;
    Apologies to Pogo.” We has met the enemy and they is liberals.”

  27. With regards to banning a religion and driving it underground–the Middle East used to be Christian. Then the Muslims came a pretty much banned Christianity. So, yes, banning can be done and be effective.

  28. Obama should be impeached. I watched part of his mealy-mouthed speech this morning. He is an impediment to national security and world peace. His motives are obscure but his inaction is tantamount to treason. The French should get off the sidewalks and into the churches. Light candles there before the Blessed Sacrament. Whether it be Paris or at the scene of a fatal accident or shooting or whatever else, these candlelit teddy bear expressions of sentimentality are a sickening substitute for the sacraments instituted by Christ.

  29. With regards to banning a religion and driving it underground–the Middle East used to be Christian. Then the Muslims came a pretty much banned Christianity. So, yes, banning can be done and be effective.

    It took centuries of social pressure to disestablish Christianity among the general populace and there remained substantial Christian minorities in the Near East as recently as the beginning of the 20th Century. Christians were a majority in Lebanon as recently as 1932.

    One place where Christianity disappeared was the Maghreb. Well, we’ve conducted a recent experiment. The French conquest of the Maghreb began in 1930, though it was not fully complete until about 1928. The legal regime was at least permissive for Christian missionary work. Progress toward that end between 1830 and 1962 was, alas, diddly/squat. I take it you’re planning on a long period of subjugation for the Arab states.

  30. I said banning could be done, but you are right it would take awhile. It would be better
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    1) stop giving Muslim states (frankly any state) humanitarian “aide”
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    2) have the Pope and bishops concecrate the Middle East to the Blessed Virgin Mary, naming the states by name and pray for and end to Islam.
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    I don’t think either will happen.

  31. stop giving Muslim states (frankly any state) humanitarian “aide”

    Now you have it in for refugee camps and disaster relief. Non-security oriented foreign aid by the U.S. Government amounts to something north of $20 bn a year worldwide. It’s generally not that contextually important except in loci where the U.S. government has had some discrete political goals or loci suffering some sort of acute disaster. The countries which are seriously mendicant are generally to be found in the South Pacific or Tropical Africa (and they get their aid from a smorgasbord of sources). The muslim countries receiving more than squat are Afghanistan , Bangladesh, Bosnia, Burkina Faso, Chad, Egypt, Eritrea, Gambia, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Jordan, Kyrgyzstan, Mali, Mauritania, Morocco, Niger, Senegal, the Sudan, Tajikistan, Tunisia, and the West Bank and Gaza, and the U.S. is not necessarily the patron providing the aid. Few of these have been problem countries to the West, at least not at any time in the last 40 years. One place where turning the spigots off might do some good would be the West Bank and Gaza.

  32. Art Deco wrote, “Few of these have been problem countries to the West, at least not at any time in the last 40 years”

    For some years now, France has had 3,000 troops deployed across Mali, Mauritania, Burkina Faso, Niger and Chad, in Operation Burkhane, to maintain stability in the Sahel.

  33. If I may….

    1. The sentence “We are at war with radical jihadists” seems like a fair descriptor.
    2. What does “defending western values” look like? I hear the idea bantered about, but what does it ultimatly mean? I’m not talking about immigration policy. Assuming one has determined a number of yearly immigrints one thinks one’s country’s infrastructure can handle, what then?
    3. I have heard Muslims who embrace things like Freedom of Religion and Equality of the Sexes be accused of fooling themselves. That the radicial jihadists, and even just those REALLY conservative muslims who would like a theocracy voted in someday get what Mohammad actually wanted more. To a certain degree, so what? Who cares what Mohammad ultmatly wanted, so long as the moderates, liberals, and non-violent conservatives of Islam are the ultimate winners of the current convulsions within Islamic thought, and the radical jihadists the losers?
    4. I follow up the previous statement by saying that while I of course believe in Catholicism and wish to see its triumph, assuming that wont happen till Jesus comes back, I will settle for those most likley to live in peace with us taking command of Islam, regardless of what Mohammad may or may not have wanted.
    5. Can’t we have it both ways? Instead of saying “its about religion and a culture clash” or “its all about poverty, discrimination, and specific historical grivences”, that BOTH answers are correct to a degree?
    6. By that token, that one could argue supporting the universal adoption of the US 14th amendemnt’s ruling on citizenship, withdrawing from the schengen agreement, setting a kind of low total number of new individuals one takes in a year (WITHOUT saying ‘we will mostly take in Europeans but only a tiny percentage from the Middle East’), tackling the discrimination people who are Muslim face in Europe, leaving people alone to veil or not veil as they please, while “celebrating” Freedom of Religion, Freedom to Criticize, Equality of the Sexs, might be a decent combination for a European country to make?
    7. I posit that while Freedom to Criticise, Freedom of Relgion, Equality of the Sexes, being a democracy or constitutional monarchy etc. represent ideas that are worth defending, spreading, and celebrating, one can hold to them without neccesarily adopting what one consideres “European” or “American” food, music, clothing. It bugs me about the whole “multiculturalism vs. assimilation vs. intergration debate” that we seem to focus on demanding loyalty to things that dont matter that much. Take the veil. Making ones “IN DEFENSE OF THE WEST” line in sand over that seems like a poor choice. One can theoretically veil and still believe in equality of the sexes. The latter matters a heck of a lot less than adherence to Western clothing styles.
    8. Call the above….which seems relevant to the debate about both Islam in Europe and Latino immigration to the United States….The Liberty Principle. As long as a society is united in defense of key freedoms, who cares what the differences in food, clothing, or even language are? All the rest is relative. Even if we acknoldege that the phrase “all religions are the same” lacks nuiance (plus many of us dont believe that, choosing one we think is right) even that is something the government should stay out of.
    9 A PS to point 8 (and kinda off topic)….I consider the war on drugs a BIG part of the violence the US worries Latino immigration will somehow lead to, and favor to utter end to it. Also I pose that maybe the border with Mexico is soo big that “controlling the border” against individuals as opposed to armies is impossible.

  34. MPS, not one of these countries has had a hostile government in decades, if ever. They’ve had a security problem derived from what Walter Russell Mead calls ‘the Libyan after party’. It did not arise from local politics.

  35. “1. The sentence “We are at war with radical jihadists” seems like a fair descriptor.”

    Agreed.

    “2. What does “defending western values” look like? I hear the idea bantered about, but what does it ultimatly mean? I’m not talking about immigration policy. Assuming one has determined a number of yearly immigrints one thinks one’s country’s infrastructure can handle, what then?”

    But of course that is the point. Elites have taken out of the hands of legislatures the power to determine the number of immigrants admitted each year.

    “3. I have heard Muslims who embrace things like Freedom of Religion and Equality of the Sexes be accused of fooling themselves. That the radicial jihadists, and even just those REALLY conservative muslims who would like a theocracy voted in someday get what Mohammad actually wanted more. To a certain degree, so what? Who cares what Mohammad ultmatly wanted, so long as the moderates, liberals, and non-violent conservatives of Islam are the ultimate winners of the current convulsions within Islamic thought, and the radical jihadists the losers?”

    Moderate muslims seem quite incapable of preventing their nations from being breeding and operating grounds for jihadists. One reason of course is that the jihadists can point to passages in the Koran that justify what they do, as well as endless examples from Islamic history. In the Islamic world, the concept of separation of state and religion is almost literally unthinkable as the heirs of Attaturk in Turkey are finding out.

    “4. I follow up the previous statement by saying that while I of course believe in Catholicism and wish to see its triumph, assuming that wont happen till Jesus comes back, I will settle for those most likley to live in peace with us taking command of Islam, regardless of what Mohammad may or may not have wanted.”

    All the West has largely wanted from Islam is to be left alone. 1400 years of strife indicate how futile such a hope has been.

    “5. Can’t we have it both ways? Instead of saying “its about religion and a culture clash” or “its all about poverty, discrimination, and specific historical grivences”, that BOTH answers are correct to a degree?”

    “It’s all about Islam which can be discerned by noting that Islam almost always has unfriendly relations with any culture unfortunate enough to share a border with an Islamic country.”

    “6. By that token, that one could argue supporting the universal adoption of the US 14th amendemnt’s ruling on citizenship, withdrawing from the schengen agreement, setting a kind of low total number of new individuals one takes in a year (WITHOUT saying ‘we will mostly take in Europeans but only a tiny percentage from the Middle East’), tackling the discrimination people who are Muslim face in Europe, leaving people alone to veil or not veil as they please, while “celebrating” Freedom of Religion, Freedom to Criticize, Equality of the Sexs, might be a decent combination for a European country to make?”

    Western elites have created a problem where none existed by insisting on large scale immigration into Western lands. This indicates that the problem is not only with Islamic immigrants, but also with Western elites completely indifferent to the problems that their feel good policies inflict on the masses of the populations of their countries.

    “7. I posit that while Freedom to Criticise, Freedom of Relgion, Equality of the Sexes, being a democracy or constitutional monarchy etc. represent ideas that are worth defending, spreading, and celebrating, one can hold to them without neccesarily adopting what one consideres “European” or “American” food, music, clothing. It bugs me about the whole “multiculturalism vs. assimilation vs. intergration debate” that we seem to focus on demanding loyalty to things that dont matter that much. Take the veil. Making ones “IN DEFENSE OF THE WEST” line in sand over that seems like a poor choice. One can theoretically veil and still believe in equality of the sexes. The latter matters a heck of a lot less than adherence to Western clothing styles.”

    The problem is that Islamic immigrants often ape our fashions and little else.

    “8. Call the above….which seems relevant to the debate about both Islam in Europe and Latino immigration to the United States….The Liberty Principle. As long as a society is united in defense of key freedoms, who cares what the differences in food, clothing, or even language are? All the rest is relative. Even if we acknoldege that the phrase “all religions are the same” lacks nuiance (plus many of us dont believe that, choosing one we think is right) even that is something the government should stay out of.”

    Diversity without rapid assimilation is poison for any nation.

    “9 A PS to point 8 (and kinda off topic)….I consider the war on drugs a BIG part of the violence the US worries Latino immigration will somehow lead to, and favor to utter end to it. Also I pose that maybe the border with Mexico is soo big that “controlling the border” against individuals as opposed to armies is impossible.”

    Immigration controls with Mexico are not impossible to enforce. The present difficulty is the special interests, the Democrat Party, many businesses, and, sadly, the Church, that benefit from the present lack of enforcement and fight enforcement efforts tooth and nail.

  36. If you substitute the word “Democrat” for Islamist you find the same evil being perpetrated on our society and innocent persons, but on an even larger scale. You also see a similarity between those who silently provide the “numbers” that make it a major power, who haven’t, yet, gone “tactical,” in other words, implementing that organization’s beliefs. The Democrat Party is as evil as Islam is on a larger scale; yet, Democrats, like Muslims, don’t even see it. That is why so many “faithful” Catholics can still endorse that organization with their names and support, including the clergy. That is the real and only “fruit/result” of the U.S. bishops’ “consistent ethic of life.”

  37. As for “outlawing all religions,” as was suggested, as a way of banning Islam and its terrorist acts; that isn’t necessary. Under our Constitution the “Freedom of religion” is a right…but as long as its beliefs, teachings, and practices are not contrary to existing law. Islam is the only “religion” that teaches the killing of non believers, or Muslims who have left the faith. Those are acts of murder, and murder is against all our laws. Therefore, for Islam to be legal in the U.S., it will have to change its teachings and the source of those teachings, that violate existing law, or it is not allowed here. That means Muslims in the U.S. will have to address those issues – which should have been done long before now. It will also identify and isolate those who would be terrorist which then would enable deportations to take place.

  38. Donald wrote:
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    “All the West has largely wanted from Islam is to be left alone.  1400 years of strife indicate how futile such a hope has been.”
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    That is true. However, much of Western Europe finances Islam by buying liquid hydrocarbon fuels from lands of Islamic fascism. Europe, the US and Canada need to go full tilt nuclear. We need to produce our own liquid hydrocarbon fuel from coal using nuclear steam heat in the Fischer-Tropsch process. Let the Islamic fanatics drown in their mineral slime. But that is not what we are doing. President Hollande of France wants to reduce his country’s nuclear dependency from 70% to 50% and Germany is embarking on a complete nuclear phaseout. In the US we have recently shutdown San Onofre Units 2 and 2, Keewanee, Crystal River and Vermont Yankee, and now Entergy plans to shutdown Pilgrim and James Fitzpatrick (where I once worked) as well. Governor Cuomo additionally works to shutdown Indian Point Units 2 and 3 while denying permission for oil and gas companies to frack in the Marcellus shale. All of that makes us in Western countries ever more dependent on Islamic countries for their product.
    .
    Do we want to stop the Islamic fanatics from exporting their Jihad worldwide? If the answer is yes, then we need to stop financing them either directly or indirectly through buying the product that their countries export. That means more new nuclear: advanced passively safe light water reactors like GEH ESBWR and NuScale SMR, GEH PRISM sodium cooled fast neutron burner reactor, Candu ACR-1000 heavy water reactor, molten salt thorium fueled reactors, high temperature gas cooled pebble bed reactors, etc.

  39. Stillbebelieve:

    I liked your comments on Democrats and Muslims. Both are about control. Both try to destroy their enemies. Both pander to sex to gain adherents. Both are ideological. Both are non-Christian. Both are evil and both will destroy society unless stopped.

    And on a related point. Most of the clergy of the Catholic Church supports the Democrats which tells you where there heart is. So it is no wonder we have the problems we do in this country. I suggest that the implementation of Vatican II with it’s emphasis on Social Justice is significantly responsible for the cultural decline in the United States by going along with the zeitgeist rather than resisting it.

  40. So, I talked again with my daughter and son-in-law who live in a suburban enclave south of Brussels yesterday about events: I asked her how the Muslim arrondissements (esp. we are talking about Mollenbek, which they had previously warned me about to avoid when I last came to Brussels: it is right near the train station (remember the recent train attack, foiled by the two Americans: that jihadist was staying with his sister in Mollenbek) around Brussels-center could so easily get firearms, are Belgian gun laws lax?

    She and her husband, a native Fleming, responded vigorously “no”: it is just that the Muslims ignore the laws, and import them, either via Antwerp or by other means, and they are their own law in their ghetto. She affirmed again what I thought was the case, that ordinary Belgians have a hard time getting a gun—usually you have to be part of a hunting club: but that they are considering arming up now: enough is enough.

    She also reminded me that, according to many Belgian citizens, the nation imported vast numbers of “workers” starting in the 1970s because the Belgian birth-rate dropped to virtual non-replacement-zero. Every immigrant automatically gets $1000 euros a month, and an additiona $140 euros for every child they have. Period. She has checked. How nice that we encourage Muslim settlement of Europe.
    ….
    (Hmmm. Vast drop in the birth rate in a once-Catholic country in the 1970’s. Humanae Vitae, 1968. And who was the Card. Primate at that time? Ahh, yes, that great lion of V2, Card. Leo Josef Suenens, (in office til 1979) a great defender of Humanae Vitae? (A. Not) And who was his hand-picked successor, from 1979-2010? One Godfried (“Rot-fried”?) Danneels, another V2 lion, an anti-Humanae Vitae proponent, and allegedly more recently, one of the “Sahnkt-Gallen” ring that pushed Ratzinger out of the papacy for his alleged incompetency.

    So, the consequences of insubordination, of “apostasy which will come from the top”, is insidious and vastly devastating. Time to pay for the consequences.

  41. And I should just mention this, because it may be relevant:
    ….
    “In addition to his role in covering up sexual abuse and passing endorsement for same-sex couples, Cardinal Danneels has raised the ire of some Catholics for being suspected of approval of, if not direct involvement in, freemasonry in Belgium.

    According to some sources, Danneels spoke at a masonic event dressed in masonic costume, is on friendly relations with the Grand Orient of Belgium, and owns various books on freemasonry, including “Become a a Freemason at the Grand Orient of Belgium”. (L’Echo, May 31,2013)
    ….
    I am sure this can all be explained. “Fr. Lombardi? Fr. Lombardi?”

  42. That is true. However, much of Western Europe finances Islam by buying liquid hydrocarbon fuels from lands of Islamic fascism.

    Oil’s a fungible commodity. And, no, ‘fascist’ is not the proper word to describe Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain, the gulf Emirates, Oman, or Indonesia, none of whom are severely governed. It’s a term misapplied to Saudi Arabia, which is severely governed (but fairly practical in its foreign policy aims). Azerbaijan has not been disturbing the peace of the world, either.

  43. “When criticized for her statement, Wallström reacted by claiming that ‘the Jews are campaigning against [her]’.”

    Amazing how many European socialists can always find a way to blame the Joos for everything.

  44. Don:

    2: Did not answer the question. Plus, Europe should not issue a mass expulsion of those of the Muslim faith already living there. So then what?
    3. First, the problems are the result of MANY factors, including some that have been affecting the entire post-colonial world. Its also pointless to play the “look at the violence one sees in the scriptures” game, as one sees for instance incredible violence in the Old Testament. Even if the New Testament was always understood to demand a different course, the idea that God once ordered a genocide was for a long time taken for granted (thank goodness for biblical archaeology suggested such a genocide never happened). What matters is how people live out the faith now. And in the United States, the Islamic community here has had nowhere NEAR the same radicalization problems as in Europe (where the radical jihadists are still a tiny fraction anyway).
    4. Point was we have moderate and liberal allies within Islam, who deserve our support and not to be lumped in with the radical jihadists.
    5. Europe’s racism and discrimination against its Muslim population is a real and pernicious problem. I will point out, again, that the United States does not have nearly the same problem with home grown radicalism. Our Muslim population is fairly well integrated. Plus various Muslim communities over time have been more “liberal” than others. Look for instance to the Kurds. They are in fact Muslim. And some of our best allies in the region.
    6. Did not answer specific points of proposed, hypothetical combination being used in the here and now. Thinking about what could have been and past choices on the matter is largely pointless now.
    7.Did not respond to specific point.
    8. What does rapid assimilation even mean? How much is required to be lost? And do the specific points people get bent out of shape over….does food, clothing, entertainment….really matter? If trying to forge unity out of only ideas is “new”, frankly so what? Our ancestors after all messed up a LOT.
    9. In addition to the sheer, unbridled size of the Mexican-American border, there is also the fact that there has basically always been free movement back and forth.

  45. Amazing how many European socialists can always find a way to blame the Joos for everything.

    The best sense I can make of that is that Jews are wont stick up for themselves and are generally unpromising fodder for patron-client relationships. That makes them repulsive to the social worker mind (which pervades social work, school administration, the lower rungs of the mental health trade, and, alas, the clergy). That’s the occidental mid-market variant. Another strand of thought appears to consist of people pwnd by Michael Abraham at some debate at Oxford. That’s the British journalist variant. Another strand of thought is given to leapfrogging loyalties and siding with ugly foreigners against people proximate to you, as a sort of self-aggrandizing gesture. That’s the Jeremy Corbyn variant. Another strand fumes at affluent people. I won’t mention the name of the Catholic blogger who manifests that.

  46. Art,
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    You are correct that oil is fungible. I will then modify my statement. If Western countries continue to remain addicted to oil, then some (indeed, much) of that oil will have been bought from Muslims. That finances Muslims, and while those Muslims may be moderate (is there such a thing), eventually, sooner or later the money ends up funding Islamic terrorist groups.
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    We need to get off the oil and natural gas economy. Europe, the US and Canada need to become energy self-reliant. Only a transition to a nuclear economy can do that, and doing it will go a long ways towards starving these groups of the funding they need to perpetrate their terrorist activities world wide.
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    Now all that said, I do not believe for one minute in the liberal progressive assertion that the US invaded iraq because of Dick Cheney’s war for oil. Some things are simply too ludicrous to be considered seriously. But I do believe that buying oil from any of these Muslim states is a bad thing. Let them burn their own oil as they chose. But we should chose otherwise. Any dependency on them for any resource ends up financing them and at bottom Islam demand dhimmitude or death of non-Muslims.

  47. “2: Did not answer the question. Plus, Europe should not issue a mass expulsion of those of the Muslim faith already living there. So then what?”

    I did answer it. The first step to defending Western values is to limit the number of people coming to Western countries embracing a faith that has historically been inimical to the West. The power to set immigration policy should reside with the people living there. Removal of generous welfare benefits in Europe would cause many Islamic immigrants to seek more salubrious shores.

    “3. First, the problems are the result of MANY factors, including some that have been affecting the entire post-colonial world. Its also pointless to play the “look at the violence one sees in the scriptures” game, as one sees for instance incredible violence in the Old Testament. Even if the New Testament was always understood to demand a different course, the idea that God once ordered a genocide was for a long time taken for granted (thank goodness for biblical archaeology suggested such a genocide never happened). What matters is how people live out the faith now. And in the United States, the Islamic community here has had nowhere NEAR the same radicalization problems as in Europe (where the radical jihadists are still a tiny fraction anyway).”

    Christianity has never had the same impetus to control and dominate other societies that has existed throughout Islamic history. European expansion, with the exception of Spain, had very little religious component to it, and was largely the result of economics, which also brought the period of expansion to an end when overseas empires became too expensive to maintain.

    The violence contained in the Old Testament revolved around God setting up the Jews in their own small state rather than raising up a Jewish Jihad to control an empire. Ignoring the fact that radical jihadists can find much to support their cause in the Koran and Islamic history is to ignore one of the fundamental aspects of the problem. We have a problem of course precisely because muslims that are not radical jihadists are unable to prevent those who are from operating with impunity in most Islamic countries.

    “4. Point was we have moderate and liberal allies within Islam, who deserve our support and not to be lumped in with the radical jihadists.”

    See answer above for 3. If moderate muslims were as predominant as claimed our problem with radical jihadism would be almost non-existant.
    “5. Europe’s racism and discrimination against its Muslim population is a real and pernicious problem. I will point out, again, that the United States does not have nearly the same problem with home grown radicalism. Our Muslim population is fairly well integrated. Plus various Muslim communities over time have been more “liberal” than others. Look for instance to the Kurds. They are in fact Muslim. And some of our best allies in the region.”

    I doubt if there are few places on Earth where muslims have met with less discrimination than Europe. That simply is not a source of the problem. With the Kurds Islam has taken a back seat, for the time being, to the strong Kurdish desire to establish a Kurdish state.

    “6. Did not answer specific points of proposed, hypothetical combination being used in the here and now. Thinking about what could have been and past choices on the matter is largely pointless now.”

    Actually it isn’t because feckless leadership in Europe cause this problem and better leadership can fix it, or at least alleviate it.

    “7.Did not respond to specific point.”

    Yes I did. Muslims tend to adopt our styles and fashions but not our substance.

    “8. What does rapid assimilation even mean? How much is required to be lost? And do the specific points people get bent out of shape over….does food, clothing, entertainment….really matter? If trying to forge unity out of only ideas is “new”, frankly so what? Our ancestors after all messed up a LOT.”

    Rapid assimilation means that their loyalty is to this country, that they learn to speak English, that they support themselves and that they agree to play by our rules of government. Anyone who can’t or won’t do this is more than welcome to leave this nation.

    “9. In addition to the sheer, unbridled size of the Mexican-American border, there is also the fact that there has basically always been free movement back and forth.”

    Actually that is not correct. Mass illegal immigration by Mexicans into this country is largely a post World War II phenomenon, and most of it since 1965. It is a man made problem caused by lax enforcement of our immigration laws and a deliberate policy by the Mexican government to relieve their economic problems by having a large portion of their poorer citizens migrate to the US where they become a source of economic strength by sending money back to their relatives in Mexico.

  48. Paul, the logic of your programme is a blanket trade embargo on the Muslim world. Foreign exchange is foreign exchange. Doesn’t matter if you get it exporting oil or exporting apricot paste. We have trouble with maybe nine countries right now. For most, the problem is the breakdown of central authority, not whatever scheme the enfeebled central government is up to. One of the more menacing is Turkey, which is not much of a participant in the oil market. What did Kuwait or Indonesia ever do to you? What you’re advocating is pointlessly hostile and perverse.

  49. Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus, you know that I agree with you on expanding nuclear power. However, oil and natural gas are NOT going away.

    I prefer to cook, heat my water and my home and dry clothes with natural gas over electricity. Natural gas is better than electricity for these uses. Natural gas is an excellent fuel for fleet vehicles and if cars were sold using natural gas, I would be able to fill up my vehicle at home by tapping into the natural gas service at home. I want no part of electric vehicles.

    Back to the topic….the problem is Islam. The problem has been Islam and the problem will continue to be Islam. Islam is not compatible with any other faith or political system and has been at war with everyone since Mohammed was chasing young girls.

    The secondary problem is that the vast majority of the Catholic Church has become a bunch of wimps. The Church used to have a backbone and called sin what it is – sin. The Church produced martyr saints, cloistered saints, saints who helped the poor, saints who educated, saints who were missionaries, saints who were theologians, saints who were family members, and saints who FOUGHT!. Often they fought Islam, whether by words or with their fists or whatever weapon they could get their hands on or whatever army they could join.

    Those of us who hold to the teachings of this Church are bad mouthed by the Pope. Well, he can go ahead and bad mouth because his words have no effect on me or how I will raise my sons. There are far better Catholic examples to follow.

  50. Art Deco wrote, “The best sense I can make of that is that Jews are wont stick up for themselves…”
    Alain Finkielkraut published an essay on anti-Semitism, Au Nom de l’Autre: Réfléxions sur l’antisémitisme qui vient (In the Name of the Other: Reflections on the Coming Anti-Semitism) in which he has taken aim at the Left, explaining that anti-Jewish hatred of today comes not from those nostalgic for Pétain and Vichy but rather the activists of the anti-globalization and anti-racism movements. He explains that European unity is constructed around a series of “never agains.” No more war, nor power, nor empire, nor nationalism. Progressive Europe has disavowed its embarrassing past. This makes it ill at ease with a state, Israel, that clings to its borders just as Europe renounces its own, that nurtures its army just as Europe demilitarizes, and that must combat implacable enemies just as Europe denies such things exist

  51. “No more war, nor power, nor empire, nor nationalism. Progressive Europe has disavowed its embarrassing past. This makes it ill at ease with a state, Israel, that clings to its borders just as Europe renounces its own, that nurtures its army just as Europe demilitarizes, and that must combat implacable enemies just as Europe denies such things exist.”

    Comment of the week MPS! Take ‘er away Sam!

  52. Penguins Fan,
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    We agree. Natural gas for home heating is best. It is wasteful and unnecessarily increases price as supply becomes constricted when natural gas is also used for electrical generation.
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    Battery manufacture and periodic replacement of said batteries for electric vehicles are themselves a source of heavy metal pollution far more environmental injurious than the emissions from a fossil fueled vehicle. Developing domestic hydrocarbon reserves and using nuclear steam heat in the Fischer-Tropsch process to produce liquid hydrocarbon fuels from domestic coal reserves are wiser courses of action.
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    Whatever the case may be – and with all due respect to Art Deco – I do think that we should starve the Muslims of money. Is it perverse to deny them trade for their hydrocarbon product? Perhaps. But their demonic religion that demands dhimmitude or execution of Jews and Christians – a faith held by about 1 billion of them – is at least equally perverse. Let them have everything in the Middle East except Israel. They can use their own hydrocarbon fuels to provide the energy they need, but we should not buy it.

  53. I’m suggesting you turn off the verbiage machine (“their demonic religion”) and ask what Kuwait (as a collectivity) is doing, ask what Senegal is doing, ask what Bangladesh is doing. The answer is: not a damned thing injurious to anyone. We have real problems on our plate. An upraised middle finger pointed toward Mecca does not address those problems. (And, interesting you’d concede every beneficial thing you might get in commercial and politico-military dealings to Russia and China, who likely have the sense not to reduce their foreign policy to rhetorical flourishes).

  54. Progressive Globalists such as represented by Obama turn “Charity begins at home” on its head. They reverse the principle of Subsidiarity and get everything backwards and wrong. Israel, driven by stark reality, gets it right. We should imitate them. “Salvation is from the Jews” and also a lot of commonsense.

  55. My agenda: hone my steel; buy more ammunition.
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    The threat isn’t in Afghanistan, Kuwait, Turkey, or anywhere overseas. It is in the homeland. ISIS and Obama will deploy additional terrorists to the USA. The real threats to our country and our way of life are in colleges; in lying, liberal media meeting rooms; and in the White House.
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    That you need to understand.
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    If you don’t take responsibility for your safety no one will. The odds are very slim (as in the lottery), but at any moment you may meet sudden death (it beats malignant melanoma) like the unarmed victims in Paris. You can light candles and sing songs, “All We Are Give Peace a Chance.” You can cower and assume the fetal position. You can parrot politically-correct nonsense by the Obama regime. Or, you can arm yourself; open eyes in the back of your head; and be prepared to defend yourself. Anyhow, it’s highly unlikely you will butcher like a Parisian sheep.
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