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The Hawkeyes Vote

 

At least those who bothered to show up at the byzantine Caucuses.  On the GOP side Cruz wins with 28%, with Trump at 24% and Rubio a surprisingly close third at 23%.  In fourth is Carson at 9%.  The also rans are Rand Paul at 5%, Jeb Bush at 3%, Fiorina at 2%, Kasich at 2%, Christie at 2% and Santorum at 1%.  For now the GOP race is a three man race and probably will remain so unless someone outside the triumvirate wins in New Hampshire.  Minor candidates will begin to drop out, and Huckabee has already announced the suspension of his campaign.

On the Democrat side Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton are effectively tied.  Normally this would be terrible news for a front runner, but Clinton can console herself that a low budget insurgent candidate like Sanders needs an early win.  If Clinton can eke out a victory here and do so again in New Hampshire, expect Sanders to quickly become a footnote in the Democrat campaign, unless some bigger names drop in.  If Sanders beats Clinton in New Hampshire, she is wounded and will face a long, hard fight for the nomination, with the prospect of other candidates emerging down the road in the later primaries.

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DonL
DonL
Tuesday, February 2, AD 2016 3:10am

One has to wonder about “middle America” when a socialist like Sanders can do so well there, not to mention the pre-indicted candidate.
I wonder if Sarah Palin is having second thoughts yet? Claiming victory for “America,” when her guy lost, was “understandably bizarre” (Is that an oxymoron?)

I suspect things won’t be very predictive for the frontrunners until we get down to that Santee Cooper region.

Dante alighieri
Admin
Tuesday, February 2, AD 2016 7:33am

As much mockery Gilmore has come in for an his 12 votes or whatever it was he ended up with, he probably still spent far fewer dollars per vote than old Jeb.

.Anzlyne
.Anzlyne
Tuesday, February 2, AD 2016 8:20am

The left is very left and the right is very right in Iowa and all around the country now. My own families in Iowa caucused enthusiastically for Marco Rubio and were very gratified with the way the tide finally started to ebb for Trump as the more substance oriented candidates moved up.

Lori
Lori
Tuesday, February 2, AD 2016 9:58am

I heard the Cruz team of 5,000 were at the precincts telling people that Carson dropped out. If it is true, than Cruz and his team, can not be trusted.

Dante alighieri
Admin
Tuesday, February 2, AD 2016 11:01am

heard the Cruz team of 5,000 were at the precincts telling people that Carson dropped out. If it is true, than Cruz and his team, can not be trusted.

Suspicious that someone who has never commented before is now parroting the (unproven) talking point that is being repeated all over social media. Anyway, I somehow doubt that the confusion surrounding Carson’s status had any bearing on the end result, but keep hitting up as many blogs as you can repeating this line.

Lori
Lori
Tuesday, February 2, AD 2016 11:33am

Paul, I am Catholic and it is my first time at this site. As I said I am wondering “if it is true”. As you know, many leaders come as the angel of light but when you actually start investigating them, their goodness is superficial. They can speak religion very well but do they really believe?

Cruz voted for the TPP(transpacific partnership) which is another globalist trading scheme which redistributes America’s wealth. He also wrote the immigration policy for Bush and was down at the border with Beck last year.

Illegal immigration is being pushed, along with refugee’s to erase borders. Cruz may sound good now, but is the only reason he does, because Trump changed the debate on immigration?

Dante alighieri
Admin
Tuesday, February 2, AD 2016 12:07pm

As I said I am wondering “if it is true”

Ben Carson packed his things and went home, which led people to speculate that he was quitting the race. These rumors were not spread by team Cruz. The media quickly worked to retract the report, but it’s possible that inside some caucuses Cruz supporters may have caught wind of the rumor before it was refuted and thus urged Carson supporters to switch to Cruz. I don’t know what happened inside the individual caucus events, but Carson’s final numbers are right in line with where he was polling, so it’s unlikely that very many would-be Carson supporters switched their votes.

Cruz voted for the TPP(transpacific partnership) which is another globalist trading scheme which redistributes America’s wealth.

Cruz, like most conservatives and libertarians, believes in free trade, and so originally supported by TPP. When concerns about TPP began to emerge and the details of what was in the agreement became more clear, Cruz revoked his support and voted against it. Nothing dodgy there.

Now if you want to talk about Cruz’s record on national sovereignty and his record when it comes to the Bush administration you might want to take a look at the Supreme Court case of Medillin vs. Texas, where Cruz successfully argued against the Bush administration and defended American sovereignty.

He also wrote the immigration policy for Bush

An impressive accomplishment considering that he wasn’t even working for the Bush administration during the immigration reform debate. Was he a ghost writer?

and was down at the border with Beck last year.

Speaking of talking points, you’re repeating an odd smear against Cruz and Beck. This had nothing to do with their personal feelings about illegal immigration, but was a humanitarian mission. Once can oppose amnesty without wishing to see people suffer and die.

Illegal immigration is being pushed, along with refugee’s to erase borders. Cruz may sound good now, but is the only reason he does, because Trump changed the debate on immigration?

Utter and complete hogwash. Cruz has held a firm line on illegal immigration, long before Mr. Touchback Amnesty (another topic you might want to Google) got into the race. In fact it was Trump who in 2012 argued that Mitt Romney’s position on illegal immigration was too hard. Meanwhile Cruz worked with Jeff Sessions and others to beat back Marco Rubio to defeat the Gang of 8 bill. So while Trump was going on tv to argue for amnesty Cruz was actually doing something to defeat it.

Lori
Lori
Tuesday, February 2, AD 2016 12:56pm

Tony Katz was there in person, and talked to people in the Carson campaign, and he saw some of the tweets that people got, and they WERE from team Cruz. Carson left for a day or so– I forget for what, but it wasn’t to stop his campaign. His voters got tweets that he had dropped out and were asking who they should vote for. That is not just a misunderstanding. They were fed lies. He said to check it out on WIBC.com, which I haven’t done yet.

Second, to casually say that Cruz had backpeddled on things like TPP and that it’s not a big deal, well duh! That is the very definition of voting with your finger in the air! He supported it and then it would pass without his vote.

Lori
Lori
Tuesday, February 2, AD 2016 12:58pm

Here is Cruz on education from a prominent researcher…

http://www.newswithviews.com/Hoge/anita123.htm

Dante alighieri
Admin
Tuesday, February 2, AD 2016 1:07pm

That is the very definition of voting with your finger in the air!

Or you know, it’s a sign that he changed his mind because the facts on the ground changed. It’s not like he quietly backpedaled – he’s been openly campaigning against TPP since. Add seriously, if we’re going to talk about individuals who have flip flopped on major issues, let’s talk about Donald Trump and his change of heart on just about every issue known to man. Well he hasn’t flip-flopped on ethanol subsidies and Kelo, so at least he’s consistent in his support for crony capitalist positions, so I will give him that.

Steve Phoenix
Steve Phoenix
Tuesday, February 2, AD 2016 4:37pm

Sorry, but you are all missing the real story. That is, that the Mike Huckster has dropped out of the race. Hopefully MSNBC will pick him up any day now with a fat contract.

Doris Butler
Wednesday, February 3, AD 2016 10:14am

As a senior citizen who has been voting before most of you were born I have to say we haven’t had a good president since Truman. They all lie and will give you a lot of lip service and say that their going to make America better but trust me they won’t and they will sell their soul to the Devil to get elected and the worse one of all is Hillary I can’t believe that people can’t see through this women.

We need a good honest God loving man too run this great country of ours but I don’t see it coming in this election.

God help us all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Steve Phoenix
Steve Phoenix
Wednesday, February 3, AD 2016 10:21am

Wow, Doris, so even Ike didn’t make the grade in your book, let alone Reagan.
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So I guess you will be another morally-superior voter that will non-vote again this fall. Now, do you not take responsibility for the person we have had win in the last 2 elections.
Or how does that work?

T. Shaw
T. Shaw
Wednesday, February 3, AD 2016 10:52am

Nightmare: imagine Al Gore as POTUS. Couldn’t be worse than Obama, though
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I, too, am a seasoned citizen. Doris Butler mostly has it correct, especially regarding that incompetent, sociopathic liar: Hillary.
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Reagan was the best of the fallen lot. I had to hold my nose to vote for the others.
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I first voted in 1972 (had to be 21 y.o.) . So, Ms. Butler seems more seasoned if she voted for Ike. I have to confess that I’d vote for any prior President (not Carter) as opposed to a Clinton or Bush dynast’s coronation or another McGovern/Sanders.

Doris Butler
Wednesday, February 3, AD 2016 11:29am

Ike and Reagan were good presidents but not like Truman and I still do vote young man in every election that I can. The point I’m trying to get over is these people running against one another spend more time tearing each other apart and bad mouthing one another and they lie, cheat and steal from our country. I guest you would have had to live back in my day to understand my point. I watched the debates on t.v. and I’m sorry but to me they wasted a lot of time trashing each other then getting to the problems our nations is facing. I’m sure there are others who think the same and I will vote in this election as well but I won’t be voting for Hillary that a sure bet.

.Anzlyne
.Anzlyne
Wednesday, February 3, AD 2016 1:49pm

have recently heard so many comments to the effect- “why bother, they are all liars” and it strikes me that if that attitude is pervasive among our citizens our cause is in even worse jeopardy.
The guy who famously wandered carrying a lantern, claiming to look everywhere for an honest man, may not have been not all that honest himself- and more about shaming than anything else. On another note, Diogenes also reminds me also that making a virtue of a show of poverty is not a new idea.

Steve Phoenix
Steve Phoenix
Thursday, February 4, AD 2016 10:13am

Well, Doris, you are right on target about how the candidates are not taking the “high road” and the country to a vision of superior moral purpose, and “trashing each other.”
Not possible to maintain a rational argument against that. Rather like the White Russians cutting each other apart in 1919 and giving Russia to Lenin.

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