Thursday, March 28, AD 2024 7:11am

Insider Coup?

 

 

We are four years down the road and Pope Benedict, who allegedly resigned from the papacy in February 2013 for health reasons, is still alive and kicking, and the mystery surrounding his abrupt resignation remains as deep as ever:

Archbishop Luigi Negri who says he has visited Pope Benedict “several times” since his resignation in 2013, is the only Italian bishop to have ever participated in the annual pro-life march in Rome. Negri resigned as archbishop of Ferrara-Comacchio in February after reaching the mandatory retirement age of 75.

In an article published Monday by news outlet Rimini 2.0, Archbishop Negri said that while he has little knowledge of the inner workings of the Curia, “I am certain that the truth will emerge one day showing grave liability both inside and outside the Vatican.”

“It is no coincidence that in America, even on the basis of what has been published by Wikileaks, some Catholic groups have asked President Trump to open a commission of inquiry to investigate whether the administration of Barack Obama exerted pressure on Benedict,” he said. It remains shrouded in mystery for now, he said, “but I am sure that those responsible will be found out.”

Concluding the point, he said that as he approaches his death the first question he will ask St. Peter will be “exactly about this issue.”

 

Go here to read the rest.  If health was not the true reason for his resignation I would wager on blackmail of some sort.  In any case the way the resignation was handled and its aftermath stinks to high heaven and has all the hallmarks of an insider coup.

 

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Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus
Thursday, March 9, AD 2017 6:51am

Here’s the letter from certain conservative Catholics to President Trump:

https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/3001-did-vatican-attempt-to-influence-u-s-election-catholics-ask-trump-administration-to-investigate

Yes, I firmly believe that heretics in the Church and the Democratic Party are in alliance.

T. Shaw
T. Shaw
Thursday, March 9, AD 2017 7:22am

I’m thinking President Trump will have eight years . . .

Art Deco
Art Deco
Thursday, March 9, AD 2017 7:28am

Dear Benedict’s closest relatives apart from his nonagenarian brother are in Australia. I do wish someone would spirit him out of the Vatican and into their home.

Janet O'Connor
Janet O'Connor
Thursday, March 9, AD 2017 9:24am

This is most likely true and I wish more Catholics would face this and also since he still wears the white and carries still the Papal titles that means HE is still the only valid Pope NOT FRANCIS who was canvassed at the so called 2013 Conclave.

Ernst Schreiber
Ernst Schreiber
Thursday, March 9, AD 2017 12:19pm

Politics of the Paranoid Catholic Style?

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Thursday, March 9, AD 2017 1:43pm

[…] HEALTH WAS NOT THE TRUE REASON FOR BENEDICT’S ABDICATION I WOULD WAGER ON BLACKMAIL OF SOME […]

JTLiuzza
JTLiuzza
Thursday, March 9, AD 2017 1:55pm

“Politics of the Paranoid Catholic Style?”

“Politics of the Paranoid Catholic Style?” Smears are weak and are not rebuttal, Ernst.

Okiepapist
Thursday, March 9, AD 2017 3:29pm

If it truly wasn’t for health reasons, and he was “forced” out, than it calls into question Francis’ election. A prelate can’t be forced out of office. If Cardinal Ratzinger was forced out, he would still be Pope and Francis would be an anti-Pope and what a mess we would be in.

Greg Mockeridge
Greg Mockeridge
Thursday, March 9, AD 2017 6:30pm

If it was blackmail, what did Pope Benedict do or fail to that would make him susceptible to blackmail?

Greg Mockeridge
Greg Mockeridge
Thursday, March 9, AD 2017 6:50pm

Who might that be? And how could that make the pope so susceptible to blackmail that he would abdicate the papacy?

Greg Mockeridge
Greg Mockeridge
Friday, March 10, AD 2017 3:26am

What about his brother Msgr. Georg Ratzinger is blackmailible? The Regensberg boys choir sex abuse scandal? That news is already out there. Surprisingly, it got little press attention. He was not accused of being involved, but accused of knowing about it not coming forward.

The reason Benedict himself gave which cited lack of strength (I don’t remember health being explicitly cited), is more plausible at this juncture than that he was blackmailed.

Michael Dowd
Michael Dowd
Friday, March 10, AD 2017 3:52am

Circumstantial evidence points to a conspiracy to replace Benedict with Francis. In my opinion all of this is a coalescence of evil pointing towards the Second Coming. The most probative piece of evidence is the heretical and unsaintly way Pope Francis acts.

Greg Mockeridge
Greg Mockeridge
Friday, March 10, AD 2017 5:05am

But again, none of this made any real splash in the media when it came out. Hardly blackmail that would cause him to abdicate the papacy.

Pinky
Pinky
Friday, March 10, AD 2017 9:12am

It’s 1380 again. We’ve got a pope that no one likes, and people are looking for an excuse to believe he’s not really the pope. This doesn’t end well.

Philip Nachazel
Philip Nachazel
Friday, March 10, AD 2017 9:55am

@Pinky

I ask myself; What’s changed?

Why this merciful gesture now?
Merciful in the eyes of the divorced only if the condemnation falls on whom if indeed Christ didn’t tell PF to open a path? Then the taking of Holy Communion unworthily is falling on whom…The partakers of Holy Communion? If God is the same yesterday today and forever, then Jesus did not alter the doctrine, none of the Holy Trinity.

So why now?

Leaving it up to folks own conscience is new. Formed or lack of formation, there seems to be a gargantuan risk. Not only for the recipient, but for priests who use Chpt.8 to pastor the fringe.

My guess is that it will fall on the current Pope who opened this can of worms.

How will it end?

John Schuh
John Schuh
Friday, March 10, AD 2017 11:28am

The papal schism did more to “cause” the reformation than anything that Luther did. The roots of that lay in a famous Coup, where Boniface VIII forced his predecessor to resign. Francis reminds me far more of Boniface VIII than of St. Francis.

Pinky
Pinky
Friday, March 10, AD 2017 12:42pm

Philip Nachazel – We can question a statement or practice; we can even question the theology behind it. To question whether the Pope really is the Pope is a dark path, both intellectually and spiritually. It’s not like this has never happened before. It happens a lot, and it always leads to division. Functionally it’s indistinguishable from Protestantism.

Anzlyne
Anzlyne
Friday, March 10, AD 2017 3:07pm

If he was pressured or blackmailed in some way, I think the persons he was trying to protect is us. He might have known stuff about conclaves, Paul VI. John Paul the First’s death, and had come to a clearer understanding of what happened with the many wolves in sheeps clothing who were the men behind the curtain after Vat II. He may have come to realize he had been naive. He knew all that would cause such a loss of faith among the Catholic people of the world that he just didn’t want the lid to blow off… for our sakes. and Daneels etal would have been happy to have the lid go sky high. I think B16 wanted to protect us from knowing all the unholy stuff.

Ernst Schreiber
Ernst Schreiber
Friday, March 10, AD 2017 3:11pm

I agree with Pinky in this instance. Speculating on whether the Pope is really the Pope or if the Emeritus Pope is really the Pope or whether we’re without a Supreme Pontiff is going to make people crazy.

Philip Nachazel
Philip Nachazel
Friday, March 10, AD 2017 3:58pm

Pinky.
Thanks.
I wasn’t going down that path.
Speculation on his motives is second to the claim of anti-pope Francis.
No claims..just speculation and reading tea leaves.

Until Pope Emeritus speaks of hostile threats and concrete crimes we just guess at the retirement move.

Intervention from above save us from evil.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Saturday, March 11, AD 2017 10:40am

Francis reminds me far more of Boniface VIII than of St. Francis.

IIRc, Boniface was a canon lawyer and curial official, which does not describe Francis.

He might have known stuff about conclaves, Paul VI. John Paul the First’s death, a

Wagers what he knew of John Paul I’s death was that a 65 year old cigarette smoker had a heart attack.

Philip Nachazel
Philip Nachazel
Saturday, March 11, AD 2017 11:31am

Art Deco.

Holy Smokes.
Those were the days of “doctor approved,” smoking…”more Doctors smoke Camel’s than any other cigarette.”

Truth in advertising is a funny game.
Seems the same game is going on now, in our Church leadership and it’s claims of mercy.

Same game…. Different ad agencies.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Saturday, March 11, AD 2017 11:49am

Holy Smokes.
Those were the days of “doctor approved,” smoking…”more Doctors smoke Camel’s than any other cigarette.”

No clue about Italy. Any such advertisements in the U.S. would have disappeared ca. 1966 if not earlier.

The last physician I can recall knowing whom was known to smoke cigarettes died around about 1976.

Philip Nachazel
Philip Nachazel
Saturday, March 11, AD 2017 12:22pm

It’s the old story being played out again.

The authority is used as creditable testimony. Regardless of the claim the facts are blurred in order to achieve goal. What is the goal of the Vatican?
Save souls from hell? Increase revenues? The pitch man is the authority for many who are believing that his words are gold. Doctors in the 40’s thru the 60’s had a god like mystique. I recall the idea of getting a second opinion as being something no one would do in those years. The trust in your family Doctor was almost sacred.

If the Church authority is promoting green think or communion for those living in certain union’s, then one wonders what is being sold, why and to what harm it might cause in the future.
Similar to cigarette smoking a few decades back.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Monday, March 13, AD 2017 8:56am

If the Church authority is promoting green think or communion for those living in certain union’s, then one wonders what is being sold, why and to what harm it might cause in the future.
Similar to cigarette smoking a few decades back.

At the time of the Cippolone case, a dear friend of ours (born in 1908, died in 2001, a cigarette smoker all her adult life) told me that in popular culture it had never been considered a healthy habit: “we called ’em ‘coffin nails’. Her personal memories would have covered almost the entire period of time that cigarettes were a commonly used consumer product.

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