PopeWatch: Confused

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Sandro Magister gives us some insight into the tangled words and thoughts of Pope Francis:

 

Yesterday, March 1, there was a presentation in Rome with great fanfare, at the curia of the Society of Jesus, of the book “A Pope Francis Lexicon,” published in the United States by Liturgical Press and edited by Joshua McElwee and Cindy Wooden, the latest in a substantial series of studies on the key words of Pope Francis, on his language, on his communication style, which are in fact extremely different from those of his predecessors.

Settimo Cielo as well, a few days ago, called attention back to the oratory of Jorge Mario Bergoglio, in particular to the highly uncommon way in which at the beginning of this Lent, speaking off the cuff to the priests of Rome, he reviewed his own life:

> How Bergoglio Is Rewriting His Life. The Years of the “Great Desolation”

In these autobiographical remarks of his, Francis confessed that from time to time he had experienced feelings of omnipotence and of desolation, of disorientation and of the desire for compensation, in a psychological equilibrium that was never resolved.

And his account also seemed to proceed in disorder, on a par with his thought. When Bergoglio speaks off the cuff he is never linear, concise, direct, unequivocal. He does the exact opposite. He says and does not say, restates, contradicts himself.

One glaring recent example of this tortuous expression of his was the inflight press conference on the trip back from Peru to Rome:

> “È stato un viaggio… non so come si dice in italiano, ma in spagnolo…”

But perhaps the unsurpassed example of his sibylline speech – yes, no, I don’t know, you figure it out – remains the response that he gave at the Lutheran church of Rome on November 15, 2015, to a Protestant woman who had asked him if she and her husband, a Catholic, could receive communion together:

> “Non è facile per me risponderle…” (with video with the English subtitles)

To what extent and in what sense does this manner of Bergoglio’s expressing himself reveal his personality?

The post from Settimo Cielo on the pope giving an account of himself has stimulated a series of comments in this regard.

First of all, the doubt has been removed that Bergoglio may speak in a disorderly way only in Italian but not in Spanish, the language that is most natural to him.

We have received messages from Argentina:

“Even in Spanish Francis is rather disorderly when he improvises, although perhaps a bit less than in Italian.

And from Spain:

“He is disorderly and confused even when he speaks in Spanish. Sometimes he does not finish his sentences. He uses many expressions typical of Argentina, excessively local and informal.”

Having established this, an Italian reader has gone to the heart of the matter like this:

“I believe that Bergoglio’s disorderly and sloppy improvisation is intentional. His jumping from tangent to tangent makes it difficult for the interlocutor to come to grips with anything. This is the case, for example, of the inflight interviews, which he constructs and measures with undoubted political and manipulative skill. A skill that however in the end turns out to be to be short-lived, at least when the journalist presses him.

“As for his recent autobiographical account, the fact that he describes as an age of ‘omnipotence’ the period in which he was a superior makes one think. It reveals an affective approach to power that turns out to be problematic to say the least. The periods that he calls ‘dark’ in his life are in practice those in which he has no position of authority.”

From Argentina we received this other analysis:

“In the first place, Bergoglio’s methodological-expository disorder begins with an idea or a concept, but then moves on to another, sometimes in forced forms.It is not a ‘scholastic’ exposition in the Thomist manner. As a Jesuit he was trained to use images and representations, rather than concepts.

“In other words, his exposition is similar to his way of thinking. Rather than reflecting in an orderly deductive way, he describes situations or moments that are useful to him in exposing or imposing an idea or an image, and he talks about them. This is why his way of expressing himself is ‘disorderly’ or ‘disorganized.’ It is also in part why he often does not arrive at a conclusive idea: it is the listener or the reader who must deduce it.

“At bottom, he is not a trained thinker, he is an intellectual with an acute ability to read the other person psychologically, he knows very well to whom he is speaking and what he has to say to this person. His way of formulating something is of strong impact, it startles, but it does not have behind it a substance that one could grasp to ‘fill the soul.’

“Personally, I have not been able to fully read ‘Amoris Laetitia.” I can not connect ideas or concepts, it does not have a common thread in its formulations. It does not measure up to the writings of St. John Paul II, let alone Benedict XVI.

“At bottom, his thought and way of reflection does not create a school, nor does he make disciples.The people around him are less than mediocre. Only he must shine, unlike the previous popes, who surrounded themselves with outstanding colleagues, apart from a few exceptions.”

Go here to read the rest.  One would think that speaking clearly and thinking clearly would be among the minimum job requirements for a pope.

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6 Comments

  1. “As a Jesuit he was trained to use images and representations, rather than concepts.”

    And this can be very useful. In ethics or aesthetics, for example, Wittgenstein advises, “always ask yourself: How did we learn the meaning of this word (“good” for instance)? From what sort of examples? In what language-games? Then it will be easier for you to see that the word must have a family of meanings.”

  2. Doesn’t this and his conduct etc make you think he is truly a mere puppet? An although there may be some “usual suspects” as to who the puppetmasters are, that is just smoke and mirrors – we probably will never know who they are, except for their St. Lucifer.

    I encourage everyone to research Dr. Bella Dodd and read the book AA-1025 (fact or fiction it is a prophecy).Guy McClung, Texas

  3. “One would think that speaking clearly and thinking clearly would be among the minimum job requirements for a pope.” Apparently not.

  4. These two popes are theologically in schism with the past popes.Pope Benedict confirmed it in March 2016 and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria s.j on March 1,2018 at the Press Conference on Placuit Deo.

    MARCH 13, 2018
    The whole Church is in schism with the past popes there is a mistake on Vatican Council II : Ladaria Error is common
    http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/03/the-whole-church-is-in-schism-with-past.html
    MARCH 11, 2018
    Repost : It’s official : the present Magisterium is in schism doctrinally and they admit it in public
    http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/03/repost-its-official-present-magisterium_11.html

  5. The more I read of him the more I think he needs an exorcism. That kind of confusion and babble could be caused by an evil spirit. I am sorry to say I do have a hard time praying for him

  6. Anzlyne, for the last Our Father of the rosary I do not pray for our Holy Father’s intentions; I pray for his conversion.

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