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ObamaCare Bounce? What ObamaCare Bounce?

Perhaps a sign of public discontent with the passage of ObamaCare, the Republicans now lead by four points, 48-44, on the Gallup Generic Congressional ballot among registered  voters.  It is rare for Republicans to take the lead in this poll as Gallup notes:

The trend based on registered voters shows how rare it is for the Republicans to lead on this “generic ballot” measure among all registered voters, as they do today. Other recent exceptions were recorded in 1994 — when Republicans wrested majority control from the Democrats for the first time in 40 years — and 2002, when the GOP achieved seat gains, a rarity for the president’s party in midterm elections.

On the other hand, the Democrats are not performing in the poll as they have in years when they have won Congress:

In midterm years when Democrats prevailed at the polls (such as 2006, 1990, and 1986), their net support among registered voters typically extended into double digits at several points during the year — something that has yet to happen in 2010.

Gallup notes the enthusiasm gap that currently exists between the parties:

Gallup will not begin identifying likely voters for the 2010 midterms until later in the year. However, at this early stage, Republicans show much greater enthusiasm than Democrats about voting in the elections.

In other poll news, the Republicans retain a nine point lead, 45-36, over the Democrats on the Rasmussen Generic Congressional ballot of likely voters.  Rasmussen also reports that in his latest poll on repeal of ObamaCare, 58% of voters support repeal.  Nate Silver at 538, a site which leans left politically, states the following in regard to current generic ballots:

Their bad news is that the House popular vote (a tabulation of the actual votes all around the country) and the generic ballot (an abstraction in the form of a poll) are not the same thing — and the difference usually tends to work to Democrats’ detriment. Although analysts debate the precise magnitude of the difference, on average the generic ballot has overestimated the Democrats’ performance in the popular vote by 3.4 points since 1992. If the pattern holds, that means that a 2.3-point deficit in generic ballot polls would translate to a 5.7 point deficit in the popular vote — which works out to a loss of 51 seats, according to our regression model.

These sorts of questions have been the subject of many, many academic studies, almost all of which involve far more rigor than what I’ve applied here. This is just meant to establish a benchmark. But that benchmark is a really bad one for Democrats. One reasonably well-informed translation of the generic ballot polls is that the Democrats would lose 51 House seats if the election were held today.

Some Democrat strategists predicted that Democrats would gain strength for the November election by passing ObamaCare.  Thus far, that prediction, to say the least, has not come to pass.

Update:  Sean Trende at Real Clear Politics has a detailed look here at just how bad it could get for the Democrats in November.  His bottom line:

That said, I think those who suggest that the House is barely in play, or that we are a long way from a 1994-style scenario are missing the mark. A 1994-style scenario is probably the most likely outcome at this point. Moreover, it is well within the realm of possibility – not merely a far-fetched scenario – that Democratic losses could climb into the 80 or 90-seat range. The Democrats are sailing into a perfect storm of factors influencing a midterm election, and if the situation declines for them in the ensuing months, I wouldn’t be shocked to see Democratic losses eclipse 100 seats.

 

 

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Chris Burgwald
Wednesday, April 14, AD 2010 9:02am

The Dems are trying to reassure themselves by pointing — of all places — to Reagan’s somewhat similar circumstances in 1982. Ramesh Ponnuru and Jonah Goldberg briefly discussed this yesterday at the Corner here and here.

Anthony
Anthony
Wednesday, April 14, AD 2010 10:01am

Not to crap in the cornflakes, but I really do think this is not a Republican surge. Its a anti-Obama/Pelosi/Reid, anti-government surge that will probably be greatly disappointed when STILL nothing changes after the GOP is back with increased power.

Big Tex
Big Tex
Wednesday, April 14, AD 2010 10:20am

This is the same sort of surge that brought Obama/Pelosi/Reid to power. They greatly misinterpreted their victories as a mandate from the American public as “Yes! Democrats!” as opposed to “No, not Bush & Co.” As the GOP is set to make gains this November, my hope is that they do a better job of reading the public’s sentiments than did their opponents.

restrainedradical
Wednesday, April 14, AD 2010 11:24am

I ran the numbers using a “corrected” version of Nate Silver’s methodology and came up with a 51-57-seat pick up for the GOP. http://restrainedradical.wordpress.com/2010/04/14/extra-extrapolating/

But as I also note, the rage may subside by November and the economy is a gigantic unknown.

Todd
Wednesday, April 14, AD 2010 12:59pm

If the Dems allow themselves to be caught without a response, they deserve to lose the mid-terms.

That said, it was the Republicans who gave us two immoral and ludicrously expensive wars, plus half the bank bailout. They have no cred on the economy, and truly, the other party isn’t much better. Eighteen months out of the meltdown and we still have no meaningful reform, only the promise of more money.

If we had a multi-party system, the GOP would already be down the drain and the Dems would be circling it.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Wednesday, April 14, AD 2010 2:20pm

That said, it was the Republicans who gave us two immoral and ludicrously expensive wars

The Taliban and al-Qaeda mount an unprovoked attack on a trio of office buildings, kill nearly 3,000 civilians, and a war to expunge them is ‘immoral’; we devote < 5% of our military manpower to the task and it counts as 'ludicrously expensive'.

Todd
Wednesday, April 14, AD 2010 6:17pm

You’ve pretty much nailed it, Art. But I forgot to mention “incompetent” in my description of GOP Adventurism. The Taliban is still going strong. We still don’t have the Al Qaeda head. And we took out a non-aligned dictator instead. Good work, Mr Bush.

Maybe Mr Obama should have asked for another trillion to lay waste to Southwest Asia.

On the other hand, when other presidents have prosecuted a war against unjust enemies, people were asked to make sacrifices. Our previous president: just go shopping.

Mike Petrik
Mike Petrik
Wednesday, April 14, AD 2010 7:19pm

Don,
Todd’s point is that Saddam opposed both the US and the no longer existing Soviet Union equally. LOL.

Todd
Wednesday, April 14, AD 2010 10:35pm

Well, if you insist on being dense, Saddam was unaligned with the 9/11 attacks. If the Al Qaeda and the Taliban were such significant threats, why did the Bush administration allow itself to get distracted by Iraq? The war was incompetently waged. Enemy prisoners were tortured and killed. Whatever the initial motivation for protecting the nation after 2001 was lost in a neo-con jungle of ends justifying the means. Plus it was a hideously expensive adventure, one in which US citizens were not called to sacrifice. Only our military. And their loved ones.

The GOP has learned no lessons from its recent tail whuppings. The Dems are little better. We need new parties and new ideas. Not the same old protectionism disguised as deregulation as an excuse for lawlessness.

Todd
Thursday, April 15, AD 2010 7:05am

Donald, either you are a super fast typist, or you have totally mastered Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V. Good work. And again, I think Mr Bush contributed far more to your so-called debacle than I did. The GOP couldn’t conduct a war, and couldn’t protect a homeland from disaster. They were bounced for good reason in ’06 and ’08. 2010 would be too soon for a comeback, I would think. But I never discount the short memory of angry citizenry. Good thing we’re not a parliamentary democracy, eh?

Art Deco
Art Deco
Thursday, April 15, AD 2010 7:57am

You’ve pretty much nailed it, Art.

Irony is dead.

Mr. Bush’s critics might consider the following:

1. Decisions in war and diplomacy are commonly made under conditions of uncertainty;

2. The Bush Administration and the Clinton Administration faced a disagreeable trilemma concering the Iraqi regime: take the sanctions off and live with the consequences, leave the sanctions on and live with the consequences (were not the humanitarian aid hucksters assuring us that there were six figures worth of excess deaths in Iraq every year?), or eject the government and live with the consequences.

3. Institutions have skill sets useful for some purposes and not others. The measure of them is how adaptable they are to circumstances. That includes learning techniques of counter-insurgency in novel terrain.

4. People of integrity keep their hands off the goalposts.

5. People with a lively sense of who they are and what they amount to generally need not be reminded that if they are vociferious in their judgment that others are small, they had better be big.

6. Self-aggrandizement is a common purpose of political discourse. It shouldn’t be, but it is.

http://www.amazon.com/Vision-Anointed-Self-Congratulation-Social-Policy/dp/046508995X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1271336185&sr=1-1

Phillip
Phillip
Thursday, April 15, AD 2010 9:36am

Yes, there was quite the push to end sanctions because of all the secondary deaths that were supposed to be caused by them. France, if I recall correctly was calling for their repeal and I believe even JPII chimed in.

Some perspective on this from the time:

http://www.globalpolicy.org/component/content/article/170/41947.html

The push to keep sanctions came only after the US threatened war with Iraq.

Phillip
Phillip
Thursday, April 15, AD 2010 10:04am

“John Paul II said in his address, sanctions are “an act of force,” and current experience demonstrates that a policy of sanctions “inflicts grave hardships upon the people of the countries at which it is aimed.” Indeed, after a March 1995 meeting with Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister,Tariq Azi, Cardinal Angelo Sodano, the Vatican secretary of state, said that sanctions “must not be used as a means of war or to punish a population.” For all of these reasons, the criterion for sanctions cannot be reduced to the one of effectiveness.”

The end of sanctions were being pushed for, Saddam continued to defy the conditions for the end of the Gulf War and diplomacy was (as is often the case) ineffective.

The longer I think on it the more the Iraq War does seem just.

trackback
Thursday, April 15, AD 2010 10:20am

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Todd
Thursday, April 15, AD 2010 10:49am

“Keeping the US safe from a repetition of that attack was a major achievement of the Bush administration.”

Except they didn’t. The anthrax attacks ended, but were never solved. And despite a beefed up Homeland Security, Katrina was a disaster after the disaster. Political cronyism, including defense contractors, dogged the Republicans for years.

That’s not to say the Dems would have fared better. In nearly every way, they’re just as bad.

But hey, on the bright side, with $700B a year, at least some of that says stateside to enrich the coffers of warmongers. The alternative is to clean up health insurance. That will certainly ship American money overseas to good use, eh?

Take the last word, gents; you’ve earned it on this thread.

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