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Obama Releases Birth Certificate. Why Now?

Today President Obama released his long form birth certificate.  Go here to view the video.  This should convince all but the deeply conspiratorial among us, although since I include most of the Birther movement in that category, I doubt if the release of the birth certicate will slow them down one iota.  I have long thought that Obama did not release his long form birth certificate because he secretly loved the Birthers, who allowed his allies to tar all Obama critics as being delusional nutcases.  What I find interesting is why did he decide to release his birth certificate now?

Donald Trump, the man with perhaps the worst toupe in the history of the world, has claimed credit for this release.  I doubt it.  I think it more likely that Obama was alarmed by plummeting approval  polls.  Once the American people have turned on a President, a large segment of the public will tend to  believe any bad thing claimed about him, no matter how irrational the claim is.  The release of the birth certificate with a news conference strikes me as a tad panicky.  I suspect the Obama administration did this now because they expect that Obama is going to take a real popularity hit due to skyrocketing prices at the pump, and they wanted to act to prevent angry voters from latching on to the “Obama is a Kenyan” meme.

I believe that this probably was a mistake by Obama.  Him addressing it on a news conference, rather than simply releasing the birth certificate, will only increase the mania of the true believing Birthers, and I think sane Americans will probably be puzzled as to why he thought he had to take time now to refute this nonsense at all.  The whole thing strikes me as odd.

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Jasper
Jasper
Wednesday, April 27, AD 2011 6:11pm

“Why now”?

you answered it in your post.

RR
RR
Wednesday, April 27, AD 2011 6:18pm

“Donald Trump, the man with perhaps the worst toupe in the history of the world, has claimed credit for this release. I doubt it. I think it more likely that Obama was alarmed by plummeting approval polls.”

The two aren’t unrelated. Trumps anti-Obama rants were getting a lot of attention because they included Birtherism. Obama may have thought that this would cause the media to stop giving Trump airtime.

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Wednesday, April 27, AD 2011 6:30pm

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Blackadder
Wednesday, April 27, AD 2011 6:52pm

Maybe he just wanted to stick it to Jerome Corsi.

Joe Green
Joe Green
Wednesday, April 27, AD 2011 6:53pm

Another sign of the Apocalypse? Just goes to show the shallowness of American political discourse. BTW, I recommend Eric Hoffer’s “True Believers” to see how mass movements, including Christianity, have managed to sustain themselves.

Here, Hoffer writes brilliantly of identification with a collective whole:

“To ripen a person for self-sacrifice he must be stripped of his individual identity and distinctness. He must cease to be George, Hans, Ivan or Tadao — a human atom with an existence bounded by birth and death. The most drastic way to achieve this end is by the complete assimilation of the individual into a collective body. The fully assimilated individual does not see himself and others as human beings. When asked who he is, his automatic response is that he is a German, a Russian, a Japanese, a Christian, a Moslem, a member of a certain tribe or family. he has no purpose, worth and destiny apart from his collective body; and as long as that body lives he cannot really die. To a man utterly without a sense of belonging, mere life is all that matters.”

Which is why the birther movement survives and will continue because those true believers say they are “birthers” proudly, as part of a collective whole rather than as individuals. In every act, however trivial, the individual must by some ritual associate himself with the congregation.

Hoffer then quotes Montaigne: “I would not speak so boldly if it were my due to be believed,” leaving the reader to sort it out.

The Catholic Knight
Wednesday, April 27, AD 2011 6:54pm

Why now? Two words — “Jerome” and “Corsi”

learn more here: http://catholicknight.blogspot.com/2011/04/banana-republic-usa.html

Joe Green
Joe Green
Wednesday, April 27, AD 2011 6:57pm

Post script and memo to Obama: What better way to fan the flames than to say that something is “silly” and the thoughts of a “carnival barker.” Are not these the things that Americans find endlessly fascinating? As Lincoln said, “Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.”

Paul Primavera
Wednesday, April 27, AD 2011 8:31pm

Dr. Pournelle at Chaos Manor has a reader who reports the following:

—–

Dear Dr. Pournelle,

I downloaded the Barack Hussein Obama, II long form birth certificate .pdf file directly from whitehouse.gov. I opened it in Illustrator. Released the clipping mask. Yes, there are multiple layers. The lines of the form are not the same layer as the captions of the form. Individual letters in names and words are in separate layers from the rest of the name or word (i.e., ‘K’ in Kenya, ‘S’ in Stanley, ‘R’ in BARACK, and many more). It sure looks like it has been assembled from multiple elements. I can not think of an innocent reason for these facts. I also find it hard to understand how and why, if it’s a forgery, it’s such a clumsy forgery. Am I missing some reasonable technical explanation for these issues?

The file has also been scrubbed clean of most meta data. It was created on a Mac using OS X 10.6.7, but I don’t see anything else useful.

—–

There’s more at:

http://www.jerrypournelle.com/view/2011/Q2/view672.html#Wednesday

I believe nothing that comes from Obama. I’m not a Birther. I don’t go in for conspiracy theories. But Obama himself is a supporter of abortion. So I believe in nothing from him. BTW, for all those liberals out there, I have the same problem with Guiliani who is Republican and supports abortion. If you think it’s OK to murder a baby, then you’ll lie without hesitation.

Moe
Moe
Wednesday, April 27, AD 2011 10:05pm

It is very odd that the birth certificate was produced at this late date. I question the authenticity of the birth certificate simply because of the designation of Obama’s father’s race as “African.” Could it be that the narcissistic Obama, unquestionably an unique and special person, would consider it unthinkable and demeaning that he be deemed a descendant of a Negro?

Also, narcissists must be in the spotlight. Trump was just getting too much attention which forced Obama to call a press conference to obtain his narcissistic supply. What is scary, though, is that if a narcissist cannot get adulation and praise, he will seek to get attention in any deviant and vindictive manner whatsoever.

Mandy P.
Mandy P.
Wednesday, April 27, AD 2011 10:44pm

I’m inclined to believe the “why now” is partly due to tanking poll numbers and partly to distract attention from Bernanke’s abysmal press conference today. Inflation, predicted slower growth, and unemployment possibly going back up to 9+%. This is all very bad news for the president.

Elaine Krewer
Admin
Wednesday, April 27, AD 2011 11:44pm

“partly to distract attention from Bernanke’s abysmal press conference today”

It also succeeded in distracting attention from what may prove to be the biggest U.S. natural disaster since Katrina: a massive tornado outbreak in several Southern states that as of right now (11:39 p.m. CDT) has left more than 70 people dead (a number likely to rise) and nearly half a million people without power.

Tuscaloosa and Birmingham, AL, were especially hard hit, and violent tornadoes passed awfully close to Hanceville (home of Mother Angelica’s Our Lady of the Angels Monastery) more than once today. I haven’t heard or seen any indication that OLAM or EWTN got hit but I would not be suprised if some of the staff people were affected, so please keep them and all other storm victims in your prayers.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Thursday, April 28, AD 2011 5:05am

Tom Maguire of JustOneMinute offered this hypothesis four months ago:

… “Obama” is the most tightly controlled brand since Mickey Mouse (and is becoming synonomous with just that), so he is just saving this material (and his law firm billing records, and his college transcripts, and everything else) for his eventual eight-figure book deal.

Apparently, Donald Trump is now suggesting the President’s college transcripts be released (as were George W. Bush’s, Albert Gore’s, and John Kerry’s – without their consent). The unreleased long-form may prove to have been a bit of earthen embankment after all.

Joe Green
Joe Green
Thursday, April 28, AD 2011 6:59am

As predicted, this story has more legs than a centipede. Still want answers to my grassy knoll questions 40-something years later. : )

Paul W. Primavera
Thursday, April 28, AD 2011 7:06am

You may very well be correct, Donald. I simply don’t have the ability to determine if a legal document is a forgery or authentic. However, I do note that Obama simply cannot be trusted. That’s all I am saying. As your post points out, the timing of the release of this birth certificate is suspicious. However, even Dr. Pournelle at the link I gave in my previous comment acknowledges what you also think to be the case: the certificate is authentic.

One thing, however, certain seems to be the case: Obama (whether he is born in the US or is a naturalized citizen) is NOT authentically American. Everything he does is designed for the erection of a secular humanist socialist demokracy.

This whole thing is so troubling. I confess that I can’t look at the issue dispassionately because I am so totally fed up with the direction that that man has taken this country, and with the way liberal Catholics are still so in love with “The One” if for no other reason than he is the first black president (which shouldn’t matter one way or the other). I am sorry if I am out of line, but my passion gets the best of me. 🙁

DavidW
DavidW
Thursday, April 28, AD 2011 10:06am

Paul P.–this is out of line: “One thing, however, certain seems to be the case: Obama (whether he is born in the US or is a naturalized citizen) is NOT authentically American. Everything he does is designed for the erection of a secular humanist socialist demokracy.”

It never ceases to amaze me how some conservatives treat Obama as if he is some radical lefty. He’s not. From the health care legislation, which was premised on Bob Dole’s proposal in the 90s and not far from what Romney did in MA to the economic and foreign policies inherited from Bush and changed little, he’s truly a mainstream moderate with some left of center policies. Definitely NOT a socialist (ask Bernie Sanders, a real socialist about that).

For those claiming his approval numbers are “tanking”….ummm…no. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html His numbers have remained pretty steady between 45 and 50% since November. He’s right about where most first term presidents have been in their 3rd year (Nixon in the high 40s, Reagan was in the mid-40s, Clinton was in the mid-40s).

Few liberals talk about him as “The One”. That’s something made up by conservatives. Most on the far left are mad as hell for his continued efforts to reach out to Republicans and for compromising too much. Quite a few on the left feel like he is a corporate sell out.

For me, he’s a center-left politician. He’s done some good things and others he’s botched. He’s smart and is a very good orator. He will probably be reelected in 2012, especially as the GOP has yet to find anyone worth voting for at this stage.

Finally, why do you think he is “not authentically American”? Did you say the same ting about Clinton or Carter or LBJ or JFK? They (maybe with the exception of Clinton) all pushed agendas far to the left of Obama. What makes Obama specifically un-American to you?

Gail F
Gail F
Thursday, April 28, AD 2011 10:45am

Joe Green: Seriously? The interesting thing about Catholic saints is that they are so different from each other, so completely individual. They do not submerge their personalities into a whole. As the “biggies” of Christianity, they would seem to disprove either your entire argument or its application to Christianity.

As far as Obama goes, I have no idea why he announced it now. Maybe he really is just sick of the whole thing. I am far more interested in why he hasn’t released all the other information that every candidate typically releases, why he castigates millionaires but itemizes his own deductions, and so on. I assume he was born in America, as most rational people do.

Joe Green
Joe Green
Thursday, April 28, AD 2011 10:55am

Gail, no need to take me seriously. I just enjoy bantering. I think God must have a sense of humor since He created me and broke the mold. As for Obama, every time he opens his mouth, with or without a TelePrompTer, he confirms that he’s an empty suit in over his head. Forget where he was born. He’s unfit to be president, but then, looking around at the competition, I don’t see anyone worthy. What we need is a good king with a sharp ax.

DavidW
DavidW
Thursday, April 28, AD 2011 11:00am

Hi Gail…I like what you had to say about Catholic schools on the other thread. I think the biggest challenge they have to is to keep tuition low while having fewer religious on staff (meaning that payroll costs have to go up). The local Jesuit school near me has gone from having 30 Jesuits on staff in the 70s to 3 today.

As for the birth certificate thing, I think the answer of “why now’ is that he thought it was a good time to make the GOP look like a bunch of loonies, while also trying to avoid the mistakes Kerry made in handling the swift boat thing. However, many black leaders and average folks whom I’ve heard from on this feel incensed by the whole line of questioning, feeling that it is yet another attempt to undermine a black leader, similar to the attempts to portray MLK as a communist. The GOP has done very little to reach out to the black community, so look for another 98-2 split in Obama’s favor in 2012.

One area that should be of great concern to people on this forum is the Hispanic vote. Hispanics went for Obama 65-35 in 2008. Most Hispanics are Catholic. The immigrant demonization by conservatives not only alienates Hispanics, but drives them to vote for the Democrats. Seeing a 70-30 or worse split with this growing demographic is not out of the question. I would ask American Catholic readers and commentators to think about this.

Paul W. Primavera
Thursday, April 28, AD 2011 11:04am

David W.,

I defer to the following for a description of the current President of these United States:

http://commentarius-ioannis.blogspot.com/2011/04/current-president-of-these-united.html

I won’t argue the point further about the man who appoints the GE CEO to his jobs czar position after GE NBC and MS NBC worked tooth and nail to get him elected.

Paul W. Primavera
Thursday, April 28, AD 2011 11:06am

PS, every democrat President since and including FDR has been on the fast track to socialism. That includes Carter and Clinton.

Paul W. Primavera
Thursday, April 28, AD 2011 11:10am

Illegal immigration is ILLEGAL. David W’s suggests that we think about losing Hispanic votes because of this. I thought about it. Illegal is ILLEGAL. I know a man from Iraq who worked with me at my former employer and he had to go through hell to immigrate. I know a woman from Nigeria who also worked with me. She had to go through hell, too. So we are supposed to have different rules for Hispanics? Why!?

And no, I am NOT anti-Hispanic. I am anti-illegal.

Phillip
Phillip
Thursday, April 28, AD 2011 11:31am

“The immigrant demonization by conservatives not only alienates Hispanics, but drives them to vote for the Democrats. Seeing a 70-30 or worse split with this growing demographic is not out of the question. I would ask American Catholic readers and commentators to think about this.”

I believe the demonization has been by those who have sought to confuse the issue by making it look like those opposed to illegal immigration are opposed to all immigration. From this the claim is then made that those opposed are anti-immigrant and are thus racist. Thus falsely inciting hate particularly in the Hispanic community.

I don’t think DavidW is doing this and he is thus not acting contrary to charity. However, he has clearly been confused on the issue by the false accusations and has been taking in by those who are truly demonizing. I ask that he think hard about such irresponsible statements.

DavidW
DavidW
Thursday, April 28, AD 2011 11:43am

Well, I would suggest those pushing the “illegal” line to please see what the Vatican has to say:

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/migrants/documents/rc_pc_migrants_doc_20000601_migr_presentazione_en.html

As well as the USCCB:

http://www.nccbuscc.org/pcmrt/

I’ve spent some time on the border doing service with various religious and they unambiguously were appalled at what states like AZ have been doing on this topic.

I’m not calling anyone racist, but would suggest that this forum is a way to reflect on what the Church teaches and how this impacts American life, both socially as well as politically. I would ask if “illegal is illegal” is a stance that is consistent with the Church’s teachings?

Paul W. Primavera
Thursday, April 28, AD 2011 11:51am

Phillip’s point is excellent. Furthermore, the Nigerian nuclear software engineer for digital instrumentation and controls, and the Iraqi nuclear hardware engineer for digital instrumentation and controls at my former company were OUTSTANDING engineers – among the best I have worked with in the 30+ years of nuclear energy experience that I have. Yet they went with absolute HELL to come into this country. But I’m told that because I point this out and expect the same level of quality work and dedication to duty from a Hispanic that I would from a black skinned Nigerian or a brown skinned Iraqi or a northern European white American, I am racist. I am told I am a racist because I believe in an equal playing field and applying the same rules to Hispanics that are applied to Nigerians and Iraqis. That’s when I get mad. And that’s why sometimes I just don’t say things here at this blog site with the level of equanimity and calm reserve that Phillip and others use. I work with immigrants all the time. I simply insist on following the rules.

And BTW, I have been a Catechism instructor for 14 year old Spanish kids. I bought each one a Spanish English Bible and taught them as I would anyone else. There parents were mostly illegals, hired on by local white farmers who effectively enslave them by taking advantage of their illegal status. Furthermore, whatever Catholicism these Spanish people had is long gone as often Dad isn’t the father and he’s living with Mom out of wedlock. Half my Catechism class was like that.

Yup, none of this may be relevant to the birth certificate topic of this post, but what is relevant is that Democrat Party policies support this very kind of thing. I shall hold my nose in the next election and vote Republican not because I think they are the party of God but because that man in the Oval Office has GOT to be kicked out.

Paul W. Primavera
Thursday, April 28, AD 2011 11:53am

David W., read Romans 13:1-7. We are called upon to OBEY the law of the land. There is a process for immigrants to become naturalized. FOLLOW the legal process. That’s the BIBLICAL thing to do. Do NOT treat Hispanics differently than Nigerians or Iraqis.

Phillip
Phillip
Thursday, April 28, AD 2011 12:09pm

DavidW,

An addition to your links. This time noting John Paul II’s contributions to the thoughts of immigration (legal and illegal):

http://coworkersintruth.blogspot.com/2006/05/illegal-immigration-pope-john-paul-ii.html

One of the more dramatic points for this discussion from this is JP II’s 1995 address refered to in the above link. In this he notes:

“Illegal immigration should be prevented, but it is also essential to combat vigorously the criminal activities which exploit illegal immigrants.”

Note that JP II says illegal immigration should be prevented. This would be consistent with CST which teaches that states do have the right to limit immigration. JP II goes on to say that we should help the illegal immigrant but that if they are not able to be accepted by the host country they can be returned;

“Thus it is important to help illegal migrants to complete the necessary administrative papers to obtain a residence permit.

Social and charitable institutions can make contact with the authorities in order to seek appropriate, lawful solutions to various cases… When no solution is foreseen, these same institutions should direct those they are helping, perhaps also providing them with material assistance, either to seek acceptance in other countries, or to return to their own country.”

So illegal immigrants can be deported.

CST is extremely nuanced and allows a variety of licit opinions in this, as well as other matters.

Paul W. Primavera
Thursday, April 28, AD 2011 12:23pm

Obamja supports the murder of unborn babies as the right to chose and is using Hillary to export that round the world. Obama supports the equality of the “gay life style” with heterosexual marriage. Obama supports the fatal experimentation on unborn babies as embryonic stem cell research. Yet David W’s contribution is how the right wing opposes illegal immigration.

Huh?

Where exactly are your priorities? The problem of illegal immigration will NEVER be solved until we get holy and righteous before the Lord God Almighty. Holiness and righteousness come first BEFORE anything else. Repentance and conversion are first – THEN and ONLY THEN does social justice come about. Matthew 6:33.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Thursday, April 28, AD 2011 12:27pm

while also trying to avoid the mistakes Kerry made in handling the swift boat thing.

The mistakes Mr. Kerry made he made in 1969, 1971, 1979, &c. ‘Twas a bit late in the day when he was running for President.

I’ve spent some time on the border doing service with various religious and they unambiguously were appalled at what states like AZ have been doing on this topic.

They’ll get over it.

His numbers have remained pretty steady between 45 and 50% since November. He’s right about where most first term presidents have been in their 3rd year (Nixon in the high 40s, Reagan was in the mid-40s, Clinton was in the mid-40s).

It is a matter of scant importance, but it should be noted in the interests of precision that the President’s approval rating averaged 44% during the month of April. You can see here

http://www.gallup.com/poll/116677/presidential-approval-ratings-gallup-historical-statistics-trends.aspx#2

that Mr. Ford’s was slightly lower in April 1975, Mr. Carter’s was likewise in April 1979, and Mr. Reagan’s also in April 1983. The thing is, Mr. Reagan and Mr. Ford were near their nadir in public approval and the economy was in both cases near the beginning of a vigorous recovery yet to be acknowledged by the statisticians. Mr. Obama’s recovery began in June 2009 and public finance makes a minefield. I suspect he (and you) will not enjoy the next 19 months.

DavidW
DavidW
Thursday, April 28, AD 2011 6:21pm

Paul: 1. The “descriptions” you cite from the commentarius article are all either policy issues or verbal gaffes. I disagreed strongly with George w. Bush on policy and he made many verbal gaffes, yet I did not think of him as un-American. Just because you disagree with things like the moratorium on offshore drilling (remember that whole BP oil spill thing?) does not make Obama someone to be demonized. He’s a politician with whom you disagree, not a monster.

2. “…every democrat President since and including FDR has been on the fast track to socialism.” 70 years does not seem like much of a fast track to me.

3. I note that in discussing immigration, you emphasize “playing by the rules” in your example and the rule of law, even noting the passage in Romans. OK, fine. Why are you not mad as hell at the businesses that provide the reason for the immigrants to come here? Why aren’t you stomping your feet and demanding that the head of any business that hires illegal immigrants go to jail? Why does this have to be an issue about poor people who are looking for the same opportunities that many of our ancestors had (who did not have to wait 14 years for citizenship, btw) rather than those who are exploiting their labor at the expense of the American worker? Is that putting human dignity first, as the Church states?

DavidW
DavidW
Thursday, April 28, AD 2011 6:29pm

Hi Art,

“Mr. Obama’s recovery began in June 2009 and public finance makes a minefield. I suspect he (and you) will not enjoy the next 19 months.”

I hope for the sake of the country and those suffering from unemployment that the economy takes a turn for the better and companies start hiring again. Coming up with an equitable way to reform health care that is moral and cost-effective is one of the most important issues we face as a people (not to mention ending the wars and addressing climate change). These should not be partisan issues, unless one hopes for more misery for the sake of the political game. Sadly, American politics has become so polarized that many work for the failure of an administration due to political disagreements rather than trying to find common ground.

Regardless of who is to blame for this situation, it is counterproductive for us all. Claiming that Obama is not American enough, or is not a citizen is counterproductive. Saying that George W. Bush was stupid or a fascist was so as well.

We may disagree, but there are too many important issues that affect us all as we struggle to do God’s work on this Earth to play such petty games.

Dante alighieri
Admin
Thursday, April 28, AD 2011 7:53pm

These should not be partisan issues, unless one hopes for more misery for the sake of the political game. Sadly, American politics has become so polarized that many work for the failure of an administration due to political disagreements rather than trying to find common ground.

It’s called formulating different opinions on issues. Not everyone agrees about the best ways to address these concerns, and talking about finding “common ground” is just gobbledeygook to gloss over the fact that there are radically different approaches that are often not compatible.

I also note that ending the abortion holocaust is not one of your pressing concerns. Unsurprising.

DavidW
DavidW
Thursday, April 28, AD 2011 7:56pm

Thanks Paul Zummo. Your statement is indicative of being part of the problem, not the solution. And yes, I am pro-life and believe that ending abortions by multiple means is a key and pressing issue.

Paul Primavera
Thursday, April 28, AD 2011 8:07pm

Then David W, work for the defeat of liberal Demokracy, Barak Hussein Obama and Nancy Pelosi. They will not waver from their pro-abortion, pro-gay rights policy. Will NOT.

Holiness and righteous, repentance and conversion come first before anything else. Don’t think for one minute that God will treat these United States any differently than when He had Assyria deport Israel and Babylon deport Judah for their crimes of wickedness, idolatry and sexual perversion. And think not that Manasseh having his children sacrificed by immolation is any different than what Obama does by his policies to the unborn. Manasseh was led away into captivity by a ring through his nose. God forbid that that should happen to the current child-murderer in charge. But as Scripture says, be NOT deceived; God is NOT mocked for whatsoever a man soweth that also shall he reap.

Dante alighieri
Admin
Thursday, April 28, AD 2011 8:11pm

Your statement is indicative of being part of the problem, not the solution.

And your reply is indicative of someone who isn’t interested in serious debate but rather the sort of moral preening that is of little value. People have decidedly different approaches to major issues, and to gloss over these difference with blabber about common ground gets us nowhere. In fact, it is this rather humdrum “can’t we get along attitude” that gets us nowhere. And of course the worst part is that it’s pure bs. You talk about common ground, but only insofar as people come to your conclusions.

And yes, I am pro-life and believe that ending abortions by multiple means is a key and pressing issue.

But when you listed the most pressing issues of the day, independently and without being called out on it, you completely neglected abortion. So, I take your protestations about being “pro-life” for what they are – hot air.

Paul Primavera
Thursday, April 28, AD 2011 8:43pm

Here’s what David W wrote, “And yes, I am pro-life and believe that ending abortions by multiple means is a key and pressing issue.”

Note “…a key and pressing issue.”

Baby murdering is THE issue, NOT an issue. And any man who thinks that evacuating a baby from his mother’s womb is a woman’s right to chose IS a monster. But that’s what the President in effect said by his own policies.

A woman has the right to be a healthy mother, and obfuscating that with this false “right to choose” endangers the lives and health of countless women while those who do such things murder their babies. We as a nation will therefore NOT have social justice till we STOP murdering our next generation.

But to David W., that is simply “an” issue, however key and pressing it really is to him. Indeed, we see by his support for the baby-murderer in charge how key and pressing it is to him. Sorry – I simply can’t help myself when I see this kind of stuff that passes for “Catholic thinking” among the “Catholic” supporters of that man in the Oval Office.

And no, I do NOT believe the Repubs are the Party of God. Do NOT. They aren’t much better, but one plus zero is still one.

Geez, I gotta calm down. It ain’t worth the blood pressure rise.

Paul Primavera
Thursday, April 28, AD 2011 9:01pm

I just thought of something else concerning what David W wrote, “And yes, I am pro-life and believe that ending abortions by multiple means is a key and pressing issue.”

There are NOT multiple means to preventing abortion. There is ONE and ONLY ONE. You don’t want a baby, then don’t have sex. Period. No adultery. No fornication. No sexual immorality. What are we? Wild baboons given to the lust of the moment without a bit of sentience to control our behavior? And then we think we can get away with impunity from any consequences for our sexual immorality? Or did God give us brains and does He expect us to use our them. Liberals exhalt man’s reasoning faculties and denigrate Conservatives as unthinking, unfeeling brutes, so why don’t they use their brains here?

No sex – no unwanted babies. SIMPLE! I’ve been without sex for four years since being without a wife. I am still not dead.

OBEY the Lord God Almighty. Do that and abortion will go away.

T. Shaw
T. Shaw
Thursday, April 28, AD 2011 9:42pm

Indeed, why now?

This absolutely makes no sense!

Now: Unending unemployment hurts the unemployed and inflicts dolorous destitution on their families. But, that’s only (reality) 17% of we the people.

Now: Soaring food and fuel prices are hurting (despite the fact that they are not in the guvmint inflation formula) about 98% of we the people. Obamissars (must save Mother Gaia!!!) ordered stoppages of drilling and denied coal permits and mishandled foreign policy; we the people won’t fall for the lies about speculators hurting us. Obama did it.

The release makes no sense. Without 24/7 making fun of Birthers, Obama worsipping liars in the MSM don’t have “news” with which to distract and misdirect the people.

It wasn’t working anyway.

Moe
Moe
Friday, April 29, AD 2011 7:34am

I praise God that Paul Primavera has the courage and passion to defend the defenseless. Indeed, darkness has fallen over two thousand years of Christianity. Much, if not most, of our nation’s populace is not shouting to the glory of God, but praising the Prince of Darkness. And a sick man is in charge of a sick nation.

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