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What is Harvey Milk Day?

Save California has released an informational video explaining all of the details conveniently left out by the Kulturkampf Jihadists otherwise known as Liberals/Progressives and ACLU in celebrating high-risk sex by exposing it to innocent five year old children in California’s public schools.

For the Save California website click here.

Hat Tip: Cal Catholic Daily

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Tuesday, May 24, AD 2011 12:02am

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Elizabeth McClintic
Elizabeth McClintic
Tuesday, May 24, AD 2011 9:02am

I heard or read recently that semen neutralizes the environment of the woman’s vagina so that it will be more receptive to the implantation of the new life. I have not taken the time to investigate this phenomena but at first sense this would seem to be true. When males are exposed to this neutralizing effect of semen, is it any wonder that all sorts of maladies would be the end effect?

God forgives always
Man forgives sometimes
Mother Nature never forgives.

Kurt
Kurt
Tuesday, May 24, AD 2011 9:56am

In America today, children are safer in the care of a homosexual couple than in the womb of their own heterosexual mother.

Kurt
Kurt
Tuesday, May 24, AD 2011 12:43pm

Tito,

If you can’t do the math on that in your own head, you have no understanding of the evil of abortion. I’m sorry for that.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Tuesday, May 24, AD 2011 1:48pm

In America today, children are safer in the care of a homosexual couple than in the womb of their own heterosexual mother.

Perfectly irrelevant unless you posit that the alternative in policy to turning children over to homosexuals is to slaughter them.

Mike Petrik
Mike Petrik
Tuesday, May 24, AD 2011 2:03pm

Kurt,
I suspect that you are probably correct, but honestly one cannot easily know. One cannot simply compare the number of abortions to the number abuses at the hands of same-sex homosexual parents because the number of pregnant women and the number of such parents are not comparable. But it seems intuitively correct to me that what you say is almost certainly true. But I would hope that you would agree that your statement is best understood as an indictment of abortion rather than as a brief for same sex homosexual parenting.

Kurt
Kurt
Tuesday, May 24, AD 2011 2:52pm

Perfectly irrelevant unless you posit that the alternative in policy to turning children over to homosexuals is to slaughter them.

Given that in my limited and sheltered life, (i don’t get out much other than to go to church and work) I know of two gay couples who took in an otherwise unwanted child headed to being aborted, yes, I so do posit.

Anyway, more children are harmed in the womb of their heterosexual mother than in the care of a homosexual couple.

Kurt
Kurt
Tuesday, May 24, AD 2011 2:53pm

Kurt,
I suspect that you are probably correct, but … I would hope that you would agree that your statement is best understood as an indictment of abortion…

Without a doubt.

Darwin
Darwin
Tuesday, May 24, AD 2011 3:16pm

Given that about 24% of pregnancies nationwide end in abortion, even fighting in the trenches of World War One was safer than being an unborn child in modern America. I’m not sure that the comparison is a hugely useful one.

That kind of reasoning would convince one that playing Russian Roulette is a good idea.

Nick
Nick
Tuesday, May 24, AD 2011 5:16pm

@Kurt

> “Given that in my limited and sheltered life, (i don’t get out much other than to go to church and work) I know of two gay couples who took in an otherwise unwanted child headed to being aborted, yes, I so do posit.”

As far as I know, there is a _line_ of adults wanting to adopt children. Just-born babies are specially coveted.

Abortions are not caused by “lack of adoption”. If you ask “Planned Parenthood”, they explicitly say that killing the baby is better then putting up for adoption. Those feminists simply do not want babies to be born.

You could allow adoption to homosexuals, alcoholic bachelors, or whoever, and abortion would not go down.

So why did you make this comparison? This can easily be used for dishonest homosexual propaganda.

RR
RR
Tuesday, May 24, AD 2011 5:38pm

Ignoring the pseudo-science in the video, if we can teach little kids to honor a genocidal maniac (Columbus), slaveowners, and a radical socialist (Helen Keller), why not Harvey Milk?

“When males are exposed to this neutralizing effect of semen, is it any wonder that all sorts of maladies would be the end effect?”

What in the world?

Nick
Nick
Tuesday, May 24, AD 2011 6:13pm

> “Ignoring the pseudo-science in the video”

What “pseudo-science”?

>”, if we can teach little kids to honor a genocidal maniac (Columbus), slaveowners, and a radical socialist (Helen Keller)”

Don’t mix completely different things. When people respect slave-owners, they generally forgive them for holding a position that were very entrenched at their times. It may be quite difficult to think outside the cultural box, and we may forgive slave-owners who do (in this regard) what their parents and everyone around them taught them to do. None of this applies to Harvey Milk.

Second, if you don’t like slave-owners or Helen Keller to be revered in schools, then argue against them; it makes no logical sense to say “because slave-owners are honored, perverts must be honored too”. What kind of logic is that?

>”, why not Harvey Milk?”

Besides what I have said above, there is the fact the making _children_ honor a _child predator_ is pretty much unbelievable. What next? Will we make Jews honor Hitler?

RR
RR
Tuesday, May 24, AD 2011 7:20pm

“Don’t mix completely different things. When people respect slave-owners, they generally forgive them for holding a position that were very entrenched at their times. It may be quite difficult to think outside the cultural box, and we may forgive slave-owners who do (in this regard) what their parents and everyone around them taught them to do. None of this applies to Harvey Milk.”

I think all of that applies to Harvey Milk.

“Second, if you don’t like slave-owners or Helen Keller to be revered in schools, then argue against them”

I think they should all be taught as heroic but flawed figures, Harvey Milk included.

T. Shaw
T. Shaw
Tuesday, May 24, AD 2011 9:14pm

It’s sick out there and getting sicker.

Nick
Nick
Tuesday, May 24, AD 2011 11:24pm

@RR
> “I think they should all be taught as heroic but flawed figures, Harvey Milk included.”

For _children_? Really?

One thing is for an adult to study academically the non-evil work of a guy who also did evil. For example, last year I studied the work of a logician who was also a Nazi. It was OK, because I am an adult, and also because we were only studying his work – and not _honoring_ the man.

But

1) small children
2) honoring
3) a child predator

? Really? How can this even be considered?

RR
RR
Wednesday, May 25, AD 2011 1:07am

Small children honoring a slaveowner? Maybe you leave out the bad parts until they’re a bit older. I think that’s how most are taught and I’m sure that’s how Harvey Milk is taught.

Mike Petrik
Mike Petrik
Wednesday, May 25, AD 2011 5:42am

RR,
Referring to Columbus as a genocidal maniac is an unsupportable stupid slur.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Wednesday, May 25, AD 2011 6:21am

I think they should all be taught as heroic but flawed figures, Harvey Milk included.

He was a camera merchant who served a brief term as a municipal councillor in San Francisco. He was a bachelor all his life and never had any children. He is well-known because he made a public point of his sexual perversions and he was regrettably in the wrong place at the wrong time on a November day in 1978. He was none too scrupulous. I respect people who go into business for themselves and are willing to take on the time-consuming mess of municipal budgets, legislation, and constituent service. I cannot see what is heroic about him. My township supervisor compares favorably to Harvey Milk, but the New York state legislature will never insist that a day be devoted to his life and works in the state’s schools.

Donald R. McClarey
Admin
Wednesday, May 25, AD 2011 6:34am

Milk is celebrated by the powers that be in California for only one thing: he was one of the first elected officials in that state who was an open homosexual. This is all about identity politics and the promotion of the homosexual agenda, and to pretend otherwise is as foolish as it is mendacious.

RR
RR
Wednesday, May 25, AD 2011 7:27am

I guess teaching Sally Ride is promoting the feminist agenda and teaching Jackie Robinson is promoting the Black Panther agenda?

Donald R. McClarey
Admin
Wednesday, May 25, AD 2011 7:29am

They actually accomplished something RR. All Mr. Milk accomplished was being badly ensnared in a politically correct sin.

Darwin
Darwin
Wednesday, May 25, AD 2011 7:59am

He was a camera merchant who served a brief term as a municipal councillor in San Francisco. He was a bachelor all his life and never had any children. He is well-known because he made a public point of his sexual perversions and he was regrettably in the wrong place at the wrong time on a November day in 1978.

Bingo.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Wednesday, May 25, AD 2011 8:13am

I guess teaching Sally Ride is promoting the feminist agenda and teaching Jackie Robinson is promoting the Black Panther agenda?

1. Personally, I do not think that the life and works of either of these individuals merits more than passing mention in the sort of historical survey courses which are offered to elementary and secondary students.

2. If there is a ‘Sally Ride Day’ or a ‘Jackie Robinson Day’ prescribed by any state legislature, can you tell us which one?

3. Dr. Ride is an astrophysicist who did two things very few people do: completing the terminal degree in the hardest of hard sciences and traveling in space.

4. I doubt Stokely Carmichael or H. Rap Brown took, during their years as public figures, more than a passing interest in Jackie Robinson.

5. Discussion of the life of both can be framed in a way that is politically sectarian and distortive (and thus inadvisable).

Chris M
Chris M
Wednesday, May 25, AD 2011 8:21am

Let’s also not forget Milk’s unwavering public support for the atheist, communist, bisexual rapist and mass murderer Jim Jones. Quite a hero, that Harvey Milk..

RR
RR
Wednesday, May 25, AD 2011 8:26am

Milk was the first openly-gay politician in California. That coupled with the assassination is why we’re talking about him and not your local township supervisor. Milk is historically significant.

RR
RR
Wednesday, May 25, AD 2011 8:27am

Another thing. Harvey Milk Day doesn’t mandate the teaching of anything. Teachers could teach or not teach kids about him with or without the day.

RR
RR
Wednesday, May 25, AD 2011 8:43am

“Personally, I do not think that the life and works of either of these individuals merits more than passing mention in the sort of historical survey courses which are offered to elementary and secondary students.”

I agree. Though they can be taught as part of a larger lesson on women’s history or black history. But I doubt opponents of Harvey Milk Day would approve of even a passing mention of him in classrooms.

Darwin
Darwin
Wednesday, May 25, AD 2011 9:01am

Milk was the first openly-gay politician in California.

And what people are saying is that this is not an “achievement” which needs to be discussed extensively with elementary school kids.

Kurt
Kurt
Wednesday, May 25, AD 2011 9:23am

@Kurt

> “Given that in my limited and sheltered life, (i don’t get out much other than to go to church and work) I know of two gay couples who took in an otherwise unwanted child headed to being aborted, yes, I so do posit.”

As far as I know, there is a _line_ of adults wanting to adopt children. Just-born babies are specially coveted.

You could allow adoption to homosexuals, alcoholic bachelors, or whoever, and abortion would not go down.

So why did you make this comparison? This can easily be used for dishonest homosexual propaganda.

I noted two particular situations I am aware of and you responsed to my comment. Therefore I can say that you are wrong and your views promote abortion and the destruction of the unborn.

Without violating anyone’s privacy, I can tell you in both cases it was a matter of the gentlemen personally interacting with the mothers. I think the gentlemen’s actions were heroic. If you want to assert that it is not possible for some gay guys to have been heroic in these circumstances, I’ll continue the discussion. Otherwise, I’ll take your silence as a retraction.

Kurt
Kurt
Wednesday, May 25, AD 2011 9:25am

@Kurt

“Given that in my limited and sheltered life, (i don’t get out much other than to go to church and work) I know of two gay couples who took in an otherwise unwanted child headed to being aborted, yes, I so do posit.”

As far as I know, there is a _line_ of adults wanting to adopt children. Just-born babies are specially coveted.

You could allow adoption to homosexuals, alcoholic bachelors, or whoever, and abortion would not go down.

So why did you make this comparison? This can easily be used for dishonest homosexual propaganda.

I noted two particular situations I am aware of and you responsed to my comment. Therefore I can say that you are wrong and your views promote abortion and the destruction of the unborn.

Without violating anyone’s privacy, I can tell you in both cases it was a matter of the gentlemen personally interacting with the mothers. I think the gentlemen’s actions were heroic. If you want to assert that it is not possible for some gay guys to have been heroic in these circumstances, I’ll continue the discussion. Otherwise, I’ll take your silence as a retraction.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Wednesday, May 25, AD 2011 10:03am

That coupled with the assassination is why we’re talking about him and not your local township supervisor. Milk is historically significant

No. he. isn’t. Except as a study in aspects of political culture. And he was not assassinated. He happened to be in the hallway when Dan White was on a rampage.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Wednesday, May 25, AD 2011 10:05am

But I doubt opponents of Harvey Milk Day would approve of even a passing mention of him in classrooms.

It’s not like the teachers do not have other things to discuss.

Blackadder
Wednesday, May 25, AD 2011 10:10am

Milk wasn’t actually the first openly gay politician in California. In fact, when Milk finally did win elected office, his main opponent was another openly gay man (Richard Stokes) who had been “out” longer than Milk.

Nick
Nick
Wednesday, May 25, AD 2011 10:20am

@Kurt
> “I noted two particular situations I am aware of and you responsed to my comment. Therefore I can say that you are wrong and your views promote abortion and the destruction of the unborn.”

What? What is the logic here?

RR
RR
Wednesday, May 25, AD 2011 10:27am

@Darwin, is being the first black MLB player an “achievement”? At the very least, the election of Harvey Milk is a significant milestone.

I also didn’t say anything about “extensive” discussion.

Reading the California Education Code, there are lots of holidays that most likely go uncelebrated in schools. California Poppy Day? It looks like they designated a day for every minority and picked a representative to put a face on the day. Blacks (Crispus Attucks) , Asians (Fred Korematsu), Hispanics (Cesar Chavez), women (Susan B Anthony), environmentalists (John Muir), and Republicans (Ronald Reagan). Native Americans get a day but no name.

T. Shaw
T. Shaw
Wednesday, May 25, AD 2011 10:29am

“The only evils these people recognize are having to endure hunger, disease, and murder. It is as though man’s greatest good were to have everything good, except himself.” St. Augustine, The City of God

RR
RR
Wednesday, May 25, AD 2011 10:40am

“And he was not assassinated. He happened to be in the hallway when Dan White was on a rampage.”

Are you serious? How widespread is this misinformation? I guess, properly teaching Harvey Milk is even more important than I thought.

Jay Anderson
Wednesday, May 25, AD 2011 10:55am

“… properly teaching Harvey Milk …”?

Good grief! Really?

Dale Price
Dale Price
Wednesday, May 25, AD 2011 11:06am

Given the time limits in history classrooms, “properly teaching” everyone’s trail-blazing icon is a zero-sum game. Whom do we exclude as a result?

T. Shaw
T. Shaw
Wednesday, May 25, AD 2011 11:38am

Pogo: “We have met the enemy. And, he is us!”

Art Deco
Art Deco
Wednesday, May 25, AD 2011 12:17pm

Are you serious? How widespread is this misinformation?

White was at city hall to meet with Mayor George Moscone. His encounter with Milk was happenstance.

There was prior to Milk’s election an explicit homosexual in the Minnesota legislature and one in the Massachusetts legislature.

George
George
Thursday, May 26, AD 2011 6:54am

A few minutes after White was admitted to the mayor’s office, the secretary heard the sound of his raised voice and then several dull thuds. White then exited the mayor’s office, reloaded his gun while making sure he was not observed, and ran to the area of the building housing the supervisors’ offices and used his key to enter. There, Supervisor Feinstein called to him, but White said to her, “I have to do something first,” and asked to meet with Supervisor Milk. Promptly, within 15 seconds of entering Milk’s office, White shot Milk once through his mid-section, then twice more into his chest. When Milk fell to the ground, White shot him through the back of the head splattering the office with blood. Then White put the muzzle of his gun against Harvey Milk’s skull and blew out the remainder of his brains. White confessed that he was upset about losing his job and that he had killed Milk because he had thought that Milk had plotted to have him removed. White’s aide testified that she had driven White to City Hall that day, and that White had told her in the car (while he was armed with his concealed weapon and extra bullets, unbeknownst to her) that he was planning to see both Moscone and Milk. In his confession, White claimed he didn’t know why he brought his gun and ten extra bullets to City Hall that day.

According to Happenstance Theory, it was happenstance that White went to City Hall that day, happenstance that he brought a gun with him plus ten extra bullets, happenstance that Moscone was shot, happenstance that White then reloaded his gun with the extra bullets he happened to have brought with him that day, happenstance that he specifically then asked to see Milk, happenstance that he then promptly shot Milk, not once, but over and over again, happenstance that White confessed that he killed Milk because he had thought Milk had plotted against him, and happenstance that after having shot the two people he reportedly had planned to see that day, he didn’t again reload his gun like he did before requesting to see Milk but instead left for the day. And happenstance that White wrote befote his suicide in 1985 that “I shot [Moscone] five times, then reloaded and went down the hall to do the same thing to Harvey… [Moscone] decided for me.” Happenstance that “If I had won, I probably wouldn’t have bothered with Harvey.” “Down the hall to Harvey’s office. His aide let me in. I shut the door, pulled out the gun, and wiped the smirk off Harvey’s face with five more bullets.”

According to Happenstance Theory, everything, including every murder, every election, everything, is happenstance, for if the murderer’s life had been different, if George Moscone had said White could have his job back, if a butterfly somewhere over the Amazon had flapped its wings just a little faster, things woulda coulda have happened otherwise. But instead, we had a “Crash Moment”, as Oprah might call it, and now we have Harvey Milk Day. All happenstance.

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