For years faithful Catholics have been urging the excommunication of the Lying Worthless Political Hack, aka Nancy Pelosi House Minority Leader. Such pleas have fallen on deaf ears. Now the Lying Worthless Political Hack believes that she can bully the Archbishop of her city, San Francisco, and she quotes Pope Francis while doing so. Father Z gives us the details:
Nancy Pelosi urges S.F. archbishop to exit marriage march
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi took the lead this week in a high-profile lobbying effort to pressure San Francisco Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone not to attend the controversial March for Marriage event, which she characterized as “venom masquerading as virtue.”
Pelosi, who is one of the country’s most powerful [pro-abortion absolutist] Catholic politicians, made a passionate appeal to the archbishop in a letter obtained by The Chronicle not to participate in the National Organization for Marriage’s June 19 march on the Supreme Court in Washington.
Cordileone, who is one of the featured speakers at the event, was a leader in the campaign for Proposition 8, the 2008 California anti-gay-marriage initiative.
“We share our love of the Catholic faith and our city of San Francisco,” Pelosi wrote to Cordileone, who, as head of the 560,000-member Archdiocese of San Francisco, has become the Catholic bishops’ point man against gay marriage. She urged him to abandon an event in which some of the participants show “disdain and hate towards LGBT persons.” [If that’s what Pelosi says, you can be sure the event is exactly the opposite.]
Invoking the words of Pope Francis with regard to gays and lesbians, she wrote, “If someone is gay and is searching for the Lord and has good will, then who am I to judge him?” [?!?…. and?]
The goal of the second annual March for Marriage is to draw thousands of supporters of what they call “traditional marriage” [you can almost hear the sneer…. “what they call…”] to walk from the U.S Capitol to the Supreme Court. Conservative former presidential candidates Mike Huckabee and Rick Santorum, as well as Cordileone, are being billed as the star speakers.
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Is there some initiative out there in support of Archbp. Cordileone? I am itching to create an ACTION ITEM.
Can. 915 needs to be applied to this scandalous wreck of a Catholic.
Go here to read the rest. Since 2008 I have been documenting the spitting on the teaching of the Catholic Church by the Lying Worthless Political Hack. Go here to read the prior posts. The bishops in this country, by and large, have been derelict in failing to call to account anti-Catholic Catholics in public office like Pelosi. Whether out of private attachment to the Democrat party, cowardice, indifference, private agreement or some other cause, the majority of bishops have adopted a policy of de facto tolerance for Catholics like Pelosi who take every opportunity to fight against what the Church teaches in regard to such issues as abortion and homosexuality. With Pope Francis, creatures like Pelosi think they can lecture the Church with impunity. Do not think for a minute that they will hesitate to use the power of the State to coerce the Church where they have the power to do so. People like Pelosi are despicable, but far worse are the vast majority of bishops in this country who through their silence over the years have allowed her and her ilk to undermine the teachings of the Church among the faithful and to pave the way for a persecution of the Church. God might well repeat to most of our bishops the words of Daniel 5:27: Tekel: thou art weighed in the balance, and art found wanting.
Mark Shea (and the site he links to) disagrees with you, Don. But, them again, Mr. Shea is very disagreeable! http://www.patheos.com/blog/markshea/2014/06/mackerel-snapper-asks-the-musical-question.html
Virtue is a high dollar boutique where the House Minority Leader shops.
Virtue is a word in which poor Nancy has neither the concept of, nor experience in practice thereof. Now venom! All snakes are experts in producing venom. House Minority Leader included.
Nancy. Go fly a kite.
“If someone is gay and is searching for the Lord and has good will, then who am I to judge him?” [?!?…. and?]
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Please note that Pope Francis says nothing, absolutely nothing about those who are practicing gay behavior, the sodomists. The sodomist denies his partner’s soul and can’t be bothered searching for the Lord. Is this good will or indulgence is one’s own lust? Or am I judging?
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Nancy Pelosi, House Minority Leader, says that she had five children in six years. Does that mean that if I have five children in six years, I can become House Minority Leader?
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Immediate animation by the human, rational, immortal soul occurs at fertilization, before the human being begins his journey down the fallopian tubes. (fallopian implantation may rupture the fallopian tube and cause immediate death for the mother in which instance removing the human being is necessary to save the life of the mother. Death must be imminent for this cause to be invoked. Prognosis is a definite maybe)
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Willful human sacrifice is worship of the devil and cannot be permitted in a civilized society because another human being, a potential American citizen, being sacrificed, is unconstitutional. It is called homicide.
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Kermit Gosnell went to prison for murdering American citizens. How many sovereign souls, from immediate animation through citizenship at birth, Gosnell ripped from the womb untimely, will be known in eternity. Atheism says there is no eternity. Mother Angelica says: “You will believe in hell, when you get there.”
Back in September of 2008, then-Speaker of the House Pelosi made several
comments downplaying the seriousness of her rejection of Church teaching
on the sanctity of life. In the controversy that followed, then-Archbishop of
San Francisco George Niederauer publicly chastised Pelosi and informed her
that he wanted to sit down with her and discuss both her scandalous rejection
of the Church’s teaching and her reception of Holy Communion.
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Pelosi’s office responded by stating that Madame Speaker was very, very busy
and Pelosi pinky-swore that she’d sit catch up with her Archbishop as soon as
possible. Six years and a new Archbishop later, and Pelosi still hasn’t found
a free moment to have that sit-down with her Ordinary… It’s almost as if she
was making a show of how little she cares what her Archbishop (and the Church)
thinks.
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If Canon 915 isn’t applicable in the case of the scandal that is Pelosi, pray
tell when would it be?
I would agree that the most grievous of all sins could be the outright denial of the Divine Mercy of our God. Since divine mercy would necessarily include divine justice in its concluding judgment of mankind this has to be a reasonable position for us. Too often we humans, in making judgment of our actions and behavior, have a tendency to overlook the preeminence of this. That is the basis of what Pope Francis meant when he said “Who am I to judge”.
We have the Law, the Scriptures, and Tradition to guide us in the pursuit of perfection to which we have been called but that perfection, if it could ever be achieved, would in truth simply be a human image of the one and only Divinity. The Pope was excusing himself from the vainglory some humans ascend to when they make declarations about others and assign definitive sentences regarding their activity.
The only way to find out who is in hell is to go there and the path there includes setting oneself up as an authority on its contents. This, unfortunately, is what is meant by the oft used “judge not lest you be judged” precaution we Christians have been given. Unfortunate, because it has been twisted and used by the forces of Evil to stop the faithful in their tracks anytime we attempt to reveal its presence in the minds and hearts of sinful men and women posing as our benefactors in their efforts to lead us to a secular Utopia.
Revelation chapter 2:
20 But I have this against you, that you tolerate the woman Jez′ebel, who calls herself a prophetess and is teaching and beguiling my servants to practice immorality and to eat food sacrificed to idols. 21 I gave her time to repent, but she refuses to repent of her immorality. 22 Behold, I will throw her on a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her I will throw into great tribulation, unless they repent of her doings; 23 and I will strike her children dead. And all the churches shall know that I am he who searches mind and heart, and I will give to each of you as your works deserve.
Pelosi had a private meeting with Pope Benedict XVI. There is no way Pope Benedict XVI did not inform Pelosi of the Truth. If Pelosi does not hear the Pope, Pelosi will not hear her Bishop.
[…] XII – Jn. Allen Digging for the Truth About Buried Irish Babies – Patrick Kenny, The Reg Nancy Pelosi and the Dereliction of Bishops – Don. R. McClarey JD, TACth Why Catholic Faith Shutting Down in Europe & America […]
While I find Nancy Pelosi’s views on abortion and gay marriage repugnant, particularly as she identifies as a practising Catholic and cannot understand why she has not been prohibited from receiving communion, I am not at all happy with descriptions of her as “a wreck of a Catholic” or a “lying worthless political hack.”
These descriptions are degrading and I believe, un-Christian. Let’s stick to constructive criticism of what she stands for, what she has said and how she has acted but leave out the personal attacks, the insulting language.
“I am not at all happy with descriptions of her as “a wreck of a Catholic” or a “lying worthless political hack.””
Purely accurate descriptions Robert, and I can attest to that as I have made a close study of her career. It is never degrading or un-Christian to call a spade, a spade.
What needs to happen is C915 needs to be revised so it can be applied. In the Latin, direct means direct, not support or vote.
Worthiness to Receive Holy Communion: General Principles
Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger
Prefect, Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith
[Note: The following memorandum was sent by Cardinal Ratzinger to Cardinal McCarrick and was made public in the first week of July 2004.]
1. Presenting oneself to receive Holy Communion should be a conscious decision, based on a reasoned judgment regarding one’s worthiness to do so, according to the Church’s objective criteria, asking such questions as: “Am I in full communion with the Catholic Church? Am I guilty of grave sin? Have I incurred a penalty (e.g. excommunication, interdict) that forbids me to receive Holy Communion? Have I prepared myself by fasting for at least an hour?” The practice of indiscriminately presenting oneself to receive Holy Communion, merely as a consequence of being present at Mass, is an abuse that must be corrected (cf. Instruction “Redemptionis Sacramentum,” nos. 81, 83).
2. The Church teaches that abortion or euthanasia is a grave sin. The Encyclical Letter Evangelium vitae, with reference to judicial decisions or civil laws that authorize or promote abortion or euthanasia, states that there is a “grave and clear obligation to oppose them by conscientious objection. […] In the case of an intrinsically unjust law, such as a law permitting abortion or euthanasia, it is therefore never licit to obey it, or to ‘take part in a propaganda campaign in favour of such a law or vote for it'” (no. 73). Christians have a “grave obligation of conscience not to cooperate formally in practices which, even if permitted by civil legislation, are contrary to God’s law. Indeed, from the moral standpoint, it is never licit to cooperate formally in evil. […] This cooperation can never be justified either by invoking respect for the freedom of others or by appealing to the fact that civil law permits it or requires it” (no. 74).
3. Not all moral issues have the same moral weight as abortion and euthanasia. For example, if a Catholic were to be at odds with the Holy Father on the application of capital punishment or on the decision to wage war, he would not for that reason be considered unworthy to present himself to receive Holy Communion. While the Church exhorts civil authorities to seek peace, not war, and to exercise discretion and mercy in imposing punishment on criminals, it may still be permissible to take up arms to repel an aggressor or to have recourse to capital punishment. There may be a legitimate diversity of opinion even among Catholics about waging war and applying the death penalty, but not however with regard to abortion and euthanasia.
4. Apart from an individual’s judgment about his worthiness to present himself to receive the Holy Eucharist, the minister of Holy Communion may find himself in the situation where he must refuse to distribute Holy Communion to someone, such as in cases of a declared excommunication, a declared interdict, or an obstinate persistence in manifest grave sin (cf. can. 915).
5. Regarding the grave sin of abortion or euthanasia, when a person’s formal cooperation becomes manifest (understood, in the case of a Catholic politician, as his consistently campaigning and voting for permissive abortion and euthanasia laws), his Pastor should meet with him, instructing him about the Church’s teaching, informing him that he is not to present himself for Holy Communion until he brings to an end the objective situation of sin, and warning him that he will otherwise be denied the Eucharist.
6. When “these precautionary measures have not had their effect or in which they were not possible,” and the person in question, with obstinate persistence, still presents himself to receive the Holy Eucharist, “the minister of Holy Communion must refuse to distribute it” (cf. Pontifical Council for Legislative Texts Declaration “Holy Communion and Divorced, Civilly Remarried Catholics” [2002], nos. 3-4). This decision, properly speaking, is not a sanction or a penalty. Nor is the minister of Holy Communion passing judgment on the person’s subjective guilt, but rather is reacting to the person’s public unworthiness to receive Holy Communion due to an objective situation of sin.
[N.B. A Catholic would be guilty of formal cooperation in evil, and so unworthy to present himself for Holy Communion, if he were to deliberately vote for a candidate precisely because of the candidate’s permissive stand on abortion and/or euthanasia. When a Catholic does not share a candidate’s stand in favour of abortion and/or euthanasia, but votes for that candidate for other reasons, it is considered remote material cooperation, which can be permitted in the presence of proportionate reasons.]
Nancy Pelosi has excommunicated herself (latae sententia) long ago.
Yes, it is uncharitable to call her those names. You undercut your credibility by doing so. I agree with you that she is deplorable. But as soon as anyone hears simple name calling, they can immediately ignore the column as being the work of strong emotion rather than reason. So while it may have made you feel better, it has effectively destroyed the persuasive value of your writing.
Christians are called to be generous towards those who are wrong. “Turn the other cheek” – “If one asks you to go a mile with them, go two” “Even the gentiles hate their enemies and love their friends.
“It is not degrading to call a spade a spade”. The point is not about Pelosi. It is about you and how you model Christian behavior.
Pelosi can be rhetorically dismantled without calling her names. And it would be far more effective to do it in a calm, reasoned way rather than a “I am out of control” way
Cernhigss: “Pelosi can be rhetorically dismantled without calling her names. And it would be far more effective to do it in a calm, reasoned way rather than a “I am out of control” way”
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Then do it
Is there anything we can do to force the Bishop’s hands in order to bring about the devil’s, Pelosi’s, excommunication ? When the Bishops are rotting in a jail cell at her hand, do u think they will finally act?
“Yes, it is uncharitable to call her those names. You undercut your credibility by doing so. I agree with you that she is deplorable. But as soon as anyone hears simple name calling, they can immediately ignore the column as being the work of strong emotion rather than reason. So while it may have made you feel better, it has effectively destroyed the persuasive value of your writing.”
Cernhigss: Your argument has “some” truth in it but not “the” truth or by any means “all” truth. Jesus Christ while here in Earth called religious hypocrites the children of the Devil (yes, Satan himself,) told them they were whited walls–a very ugly yet picturesque insult, told them they were carrying out the deeds if their father the Devil, called them vipers/snakes, was violent with money changers in a house of worship, etc.
Emotion does not invalidate argument–that is a political lie.
Daniel L Gray may be right, when he says, “Nancy Pelosi has excommunicated herself (latae sententia) long ago” but against this, we must remember the Council of Constance’s decree, Ad evitenda Scandala, “To avoid scandal and numerous dangers and to relieve timorous consciences, we hereby mercifully grant to all the faithful that henceforth no one need refrain from communicating with another in the reception or administration of the sacraments, or in other matters Divine or profane, under pretext of any ecclesiastical sentence or censure, whether promulgated in general form by law or by a judge, nor avoid anyone whomsoever, nor observe an ecclesiastical interdict, except when this sentence or censure shall have been published or made known by the judge in special and express form, against some certain, specified person, college, university, church, community, or place.”
I love the wording from the Ad evitenda Scandala decree. Kindness of clarity is expressed in “To avoid scandal and numerous dangers and to Relieve Timorous Consciences, … when this sentence or censure shall have been published or made known by the judge in special and express form, …”
The word, timorous, is food for thought. (Thank you for your endless source of references! They remind of your convenient discovery of a hyacinth in a cabinet for a holiday.)
Good column Donald. Spot on. Call a spade a spade. “Ye brood of vipers” comes to mind, “whited sepulcres full of dead men’s bones,” and, what you don’t see in commentaries is that Jesus called Herod something worse than “a fox.” My Arabic scripture teacher said that the Aramaic word meant something more like “skunk.” I assume he knew what he was talking about. He actually memorized the four Gospels, and could recite one of them in Greek. God rest his soul.
Also I am dismayed by Archbishop Cordileoni’s equivocal letter, especially that the March is “not against anything.” It certainly is against something, sodomite marriage.
Here is something to read:
http://www.crisismagazine.com/2014/whats-behind-pelosis-attack-archbishop-cordileone?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+CrisisMagazine+%28Crisis+Magazine%29
Where the bishop is, there is the Church. So, where is the bishop?
Public acts of scandal require public acts of correction. So, where is the bishop?
To all those who wrote to the following effect, “Yes, it is uncharitable to call her those names…”
What do you think both John the Baptist and Jesus called the Pharisees?
What do you think John the Baptist said to King Herod for his perverted sexual relations?
What do you think Jesus Himself said to the disciples about King Herod?
What do you think St. Peter said to Sapphira’s face for lying?
What do you think St. Paul told the Church of Corinth to do with the sex pervert, and what do you think he said about Hymenaeus and Alexander?
What do you think St. John said about that adulteress Jezebel at the Church in Thyatira?
It is high time to confront these murderers and sex perverts to their faces. Words mean everything. Furthermore, it isn’t judgment to state an observation.
Paul P.
Agreed.
One more. Matthew 5:37; “Let your yes be yes, and your no, no. For whatever is more than these is from the evil one.”
Her explanation of late term abortion is most definitely from the evil one. “Sacred?” Really? Praying for her soul is our responsibility.
Man is sacred. KIlling man is unholy.
Thank you Pat for the Crisis link. Very informative. This phrase from that article jumped out at me: ” designed to marginalize the Bishops “.
It seems to me the archbishops letter was a good fairly measured response that protects the people who are the victims of such marginalization. If the bishops are marginalized the flocks can be more easily devoured… so his response is good I think, because it doesn’t give the enemy the red meat of bellicose verbiage, but responds couched in terms of love and respect. so many of the flock do not read Crisis, or TAC or keep up with what is going on with the Bishop’s and only get what the media and the leftish enemies of the Church want to throw to them. The bishop did not give any words that can be used against the Church but he spoke clearly enough in defense of her (the Church).
Just can’t go out there with roundhouse punches and flailing arms but must be always aware of protecting the people who are so easily mislead.
“The road to hell is paved with the skulls of erring priests, with bishops as their signposts.”
St. John Chrysostom
“I do not think there are many among Bishops that will be saved, but many more that perish.”
St. John Chrysostom, Extract from St. John Chrysostom, Homily III on Acts 1:12
“It must be observed, however, that if the faith were endangered, a subject ought to rebuke his prelate even publicly.”
St. Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica II, II, q. 33, a. 4
“Augustine says in his Rule: ‘Show mercy not only to yourselves, but also to him who, being in the higher position among you, is therefore in greater danger.’ But fraternal correction is a work of mercy. Therefore even prelates ought to be corrected.”
St. Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica II, II, q. 33, a. 4, Sed Contra
How encouraging to see postings by self-appointed “holier than thou” Catholics on the topic of elected officials who also happen to be Catholic. As a cradle Catholic, I would never presume to know who is or isn’t Catholic.
We have a secular government, not a Christian government although some seem to think it is. So many of these so-called pro-life politicians have no problem voting for killing machines such as the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter or simple cluster bombs used by Israel against Palestinians. Now we have Catholic state legislators who want to make miscarriages a crime and charge these women with murder. How Christian of them. Of course, these same hypocrites are the first to take their teenage daughters to Planned Parenthood when they discover the little darling has a muffin in the oven.
Congratulations, Mike, on one of the most ill-informed, cliche ridden comments in blog history. Let’s go through it piece by piece.
As a cradle Catholic, I would never presume to know who is or isn’t Catholic.
I have no doubt that you may very well be a cradle Catholic. Of course considering the state of catechesis and Catholic education in the United States, that has very little bearing on the merits of your comment. Nevertheless, there are numerous documents – that you’ve no doubt not read or are even aware exist – that explain the responsibilities not just of Catholics but particularly of Catholic politicians. The Catechism of the Catholic Church is a good place to start as it explains the moral duties of elected Catholic politicians. Also, I would note that the tenor of your last few sentences belies the idea that you are not interested in labeling who is or is not truly Catholic in your eyes.
We have a secular government, not a Christian government although some seem to think it is.
A rather trivial non sequitur that avoids the duties and responsibilities of elected Catholic politicians.
So many of these so-called pro-life politicians have no problem voting for killing machines such as the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter –
Unless you can demonstrate otherwise, I am not aware of any admonitions against methods of legitimate military self-defense. Seeing as there are no admonitions against particular fighter planes, your point is once again a non sequitur.
Now we have Catholic state legislators who want to make miscarriages a crime and charge these women with murder.
Yeah, this is pretty much completely made up. You might want to do research that goes beyond Facebook memes.
Of course, these same hypocrites are the first to take their teenage daughters to Planned Parenthood when they discover the little darling has a muffin in the oven.
I’m not sure if you’re just projecting here, but again, this really makes no sense and suggests that you are completely flailing in an attempt to make an argument.
I get it – you really can’t express why you disagree with the blog post and as such lack the ability to make fact-based arguments as to why Nancy Pelosi’s position is the correct one, or why arguments for her excommunication are invalid. Nancy Pelosi votes to keep Democrats in power and to waste trillions of dollars of taxpayer dollars, and let’s face it – that’s a lot more important to people such as yourself than defending marriage or the unborn. And that’s cool – but let’s stop pretending that you’re the one really upholding the meaning of what it is to be Catholic. Because it’s just pathetic.
“It’s never degrading or un-Christian to call a spade, a spade.” It is if you’re referring to the actual person. Love the sinner, hate the sin. Dr. Bernard Nathanson- unapologetic abortionist, founder of NARAL and an atheistic Jew-died excruciatingly repentant and completely Catholic. If there is hope for him there is hope for Ms. Pelosi.
“It is if you’re referring to the actual person.”
Not at all. The best confession I ever had was when a crusty old priest strongly and bluntly took me to task for my sins. I tremble at how many souls are lost due to the addiction of many Christians to a mealy mouthed religion of nice uber alles.
I agree with Donald. The mentor of my 12 step mentor was an old Franciscan priest and my Confessor. He was quite specific: “So you’re a garden variety drunk: a liar, a thief, a cheat, and a sex pervert. What exactly are you then willing to do to have God remove your character defects? Or do you prefer to die a drunk and go to hell?” He didn’t stop there. Mealy-mouthed religion kills. “Repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand” saves.
Donald R. McClarey wrote, “The best confession I ever had was when a crusty old priest took me to task for my sins.”
I once passed out, after tying my shoelace outside the Palais de Justice. I have always had low blood-pressure (not a bad thing), so it happens occasionally. Now, the French are a nation of hypochondriacs, so I was promptly rushed into the Hôtel-Dieu (great name for a hospital; it was built by St Landry in 661) about 100m away.
M. L’Aumônier [The Almoner, as they call the chaplain}, summoned by my panicky Law Agent (who, by the by is Jewish) came into my cubicle in Casualty and, without any preliminaries, kicked off with « Pécheur, humilies-toi devant la pesante main de Dieu ! » [Sinner, humble yourself under the heavy hand of God] and we took it from there.
The thought occurred to me that, perhaps, my hour had really come and, when he handed me a crucifix, I found myself murmuring the lines of Tibullus,
“Te spectem, suprema mihi cum venerit hora,
Et teneam moriens deficiente manu.”
[May I gaze on you when my last hour comes; may I hold you, as I sink, in my dying clasp.]
Odd, in retrospect, that a pagan love poem should best express my feelings at such a moment, but the old Abbé beamed approval, and patted my hand.