PopeWatch: Radical Neo-Pagan Ideology




Father Z brings us the words of Bishop Athanasius Schneider who raises direct talk to an art form:


His Excellency Most Reverend Athanasius Schneider, Auxiliary Bishop of the Archdiocese of Saint Mary in Astana, Kazakhstan, had an interview with a Polish news outlet. HERE. He speaks with his usual forthrightness, to the point of being blunt.

I am tempted to say, “Enjoy the clarity and honesty now, friends. Who know how long it will last?”

Here is the first question and answer, with my usual emphases and comments:

Q: Your Excellency, what is Your Excellency’s opinion about the Synod? What is its message to families?

A: During the Synod there had been moments of obvious manipulation on the part of some clerics who held key positions in the editorial and governing structure of the Synod. [Without question.  And we should be happy that it was unmasked.] The interim report (Relatio post disceptationem) was clearly a prefabricated text with no reference to the actual statements of the Synod fathers. [“no reference” is not quite right, not as far as the whole thing is concerned.  But the troubling paragraphs were prepared ahead of time.] In the sections on homosexuality, sexuality and “divorced and remarried” with their admittance to the sacraments the text represents a radical neo-pagan ideology. This is the first time in Church history that such a heterodox text was actually published as a document of an official meeting of Catholic bishops under the guidance of a pope, even though the text only had a preliminary character. [Creeping Incrementalism] Thanks be to God and to the prayers of the faithful all over the world that a consistent number of Synod fathers resolutely rejected such an agenda; this agenda reflects the corrupt and pagan main stream morality of our time, which is being imposed globally by means of political pressure and through the almost all-powerful official mass media, which are loyal to the principles of the world gender ideology party. [What does this remind me of? “Through some crack the smoke of Satan has entered into the temple of God.” – Paul VI, 1972] Such a synod document, even if only preliminary, is a real shame and an indication to the extent the spirit of the anti-Christian world has already penetrated such important levels of the life of the Church. This document will remain for the future generations and for the historians a black mark which has stained the honour of the Apostolic See. [BUT… it isn’t all only grim…] Fortunately the Message of the Synod Fathers is a real Catholic document which outlines the Divine truth on family without being silent about the deeper roots of the problems, i.e. about the reality of sin. It gives real courage and consolation to Catholic families. Some quotations: “We think of the burden imposed by life in the suffering that can arise with a child with special needs, with grave illness, in deterioration of old age, or in the death of a loved one. We admire the fidelity of so many families who endure these trials with courage, faith, and love. They see them not as a burden inflicted on them, but as something in which they themselves give, seeing the suffering Christ in the weakness of the flesh. … Conjugal love, which is unique and indissoluble, endures despite many difficulties. It is one of the most beautiful of all miracles and the most common. This love spreads through fertility and generativity, which involves not only the procreation of children but also the gift of divine life in baptism, their catechesis, and their education. … The presence of the family of Jesus, Mary, and Joseph in their modest home hovers over you”.

Go here to read the rest.  Two of the many reasons why evil has found a home in some segments of what should be the Church Militant is because of fuzzy thinking and fuzzier speaking.  Bravo to the aptly named Bishop Athanasius who is a useful antidote to such bilge!

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  1. “[A] consistent number of Synod fathers resolutely rejected such an agenda… “
    But a minority, nevertheless.
    On paragraphs 52 & 53 on the admission of the divorced and civilly remarried to the Eucharist, the votes in favour were 104 (58%) in favour and 74 against and 112 (64%) in favour and 64 against. On paragraph 55 on “Pastoral Attention towards Persons with Homosexual Tendencies” the voting was 118 (65%) in favour and 62 against.

    It is unclear, of course, whether those voting in favour approved the contents of those paragraphs, or whether they simply felt that they merited further discussion before the Ordinary Synod in 2015.

  2. Michael Paterson-Seymour: “On paragraphs 52 & 53 on the admission of the divorced and civilly remarried to the Eucharist, the votes in favour were 104 (58%) in favour and 74 against and 112 (64%) in favour and 64 against. On paragraph 55 on “Pastoral Attention towards Persons with Homosexual Tendencies” the voting was 118 (65%) in favour and 62 against.”
    What seems to be woefully absent is The Catholic Church receiving the divorced and civilly remarried and practicing homosexuals into the Sacrament of Holy Eucharist after these people accept the teaching of the Catholic Church. God forces no one to heaven. (The devil will force anyone and everyone into hell). These persons, the divorced and civilly remarried and practicing homosexuals must choose to belong to the Catholic Church, must freely will to be Catholic. When man has freely chosen to be Catholic, he will repair to the Catholic Church and will become a Catholic, and no longer the divorced and civilly remarried and practicing homosexuals.

  3. Even without quoting Bishop Schneider’s responses to the questions right here, I think it would be good, and even uplifting, to read them in the interview. There are observations and clarity valuable to the questions of aberration from Church teaching, of what can be done to repair damage and confusion, and of how to proceed as Catholics.

  4. Yes- thanks for the link to his interview. Reading the bishop’s words give me a real sense of hope. I esp appreciated his proposed solutions.

  5. Raymond Arroyo announced today on his news program
    that Francis, the Humble, has reinstated the statements
    of the interim report, Relatio, on the Synod of the Family
    which welcomes gays into the church and values their gifts
    in the final document of the Synod.

    The Bishops of the Synod were overruled by Francis.

  6. People must embrace the Catholic Faith to receive the eternal endowment of grace, sanctifying and actual, the indwelling of God in man’s soul. Some people, some atheists, do not acknowledge man created with human body and immortal, rational soul, which is an irrational stance, since free will and intellect are endowed to the human soul. People who embrace the Catholic Faith without recognizing Jesus Christ damn themselves to nothingness.
    Eternal life in Jesus Christ is forever, the ongoing Real Presence of the Blessed Trinity in man’s soul.
    Homosexual practitioners and divorced and remarried cannot embrace eternal, ongoing infusion of sanctifying grace, if they refuse to renounce their addiction to anything and everything mortal and immortal, anything and everything mortal and immortal save for God.

  7. “Aptly named” indeed Maister McC.

    The following passage by C.S. Lewis from an “Introduction to St. Athanasius’ De Incarnatione Verbi Dei” sprung to mind.

    ‘ St. Athanasius has suffered in popular estimation from a certain sentence in the Athanasian Creed. I will not labour the point that that work is not exactly a creed and was not by St. Athanasius, for I think it is a very fine piece of writing. The words Which Faith except every one do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly are the offence. They are commonly misunderstood. The operative word is keep; not acquire, or even believe, but keep. The author, in fact, is not talking about unbelievers, but about deserters, not about those who have never heard of Christ, nor even those who have misunderstood and refused to accept Him, but of those who having really understood and really believed, then allow themselves, under the sway of sloth or of fashion or any other invited confusion to be drawn away into sub-Christian modes of thought. They are a warning against the curious modern assumption that all changes of belief, however brought about, are necessarily exempt from blame. But this is not my immediate concern. I mention the creed (commonly called) of St. Athanasius only to get out of the reader’s way what may have been a bogey and to put the true Athanasius in its place. His epitaph is Athanasius contra mundum, Athanasius against the world. We are proud that our own country has more than once stood against the world. Athanasius did the same. He stood for the Trinitarian doctrine, whole and undefiled, when it looked as if all the civilised world was slipping back from Christianity into the religion of Arius—into one of those sensible synthetic religions which are so strongly recommended today and which, then as now, included among their devotees many highly cultivated clergymen. It is his glory that he did not move with the times; it is his reward that he now remains when those times, as all times do, have moved away.’

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