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Democrats First, Catholics Second

 

Really, does this surprise anyone?

 

 

Catholic colleges and law schools can proudly claim 65 alumni in the U.S. House of Representatives—which amounts to 15 percent of the House, about double the Catholic share of four-year colleges in the United States. But The Cardinal Newman Society has found that more than half of these Catholic college alumni—38 in total—have records on abortion that should mortify their alma maters.

Most of them are rated 100 percent by pro-abortion organizations such as the National Abortion Rights Action League (NARAL) and Planned Parenthood. The National Right to Life Committee (NRLC) has rated many of them at zero percent on important life issues.

Of the 38 total representatives with scandalous records, 27 attended Jesuit institutions. More than a quarter of them, a total of 11, attended Georgetown University.

The numbers are bleak, but political science professors from faithful Catholic colleges told the Newman Society that they are hopeful for a new generation of faithfully-educated politicians who are nurtured by proper instruction.

Go here to read the rest.  I was struck by the description of the Congress critters and abortion.  Catholic pro-aborts in Congress a generation ago would describe themselves as personally opposed to abortion and take the Mario Cuomo route that they could not impose upon others the position that they themselves embraced.  This of course was always balderdash in that they had no problem in imposing endless other things on people, usually supporting ever more regulation by the State of most aspects of the lives of Americans.  However, current pro-abort “Catholic” politicians no longer embrace this fig leaf and are forthright in their advocacy of the slaying of the unborn.  And why not?  The Church in this country has proven herself completely toothless when it comes to pro-abort “Catholic” politicians.  Indeed they are honored again and again at “Catholic” colleges and universities and sometimes find employment at such institutions after their political careers are done.  If the Church were really serious about the fight for the unborn, hordes of “Catholic” politicians who routinely vote for abortion would find themselves excommunicated next week.  That they are not, speaks volumes about the priorities of many of the bureaucrats in cassocks who mislead Mother Church in this country.

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Shawn Marshall
Shawn Marshall
Sunday, April 19, AD 2015 5:53am

it is good that God is merciful. Demoncrats are bloodthirsty baby killers. 50 million and counting? Makes the Holocaust look like a Garden Party. Hope these ‘Justice and Peace’niks never ask the Almighty for justice. Sometimes I wonder where in the Hell our Church is.

Penguins Fan
Penguins Fan
Sunday, April 19, AD 2015 5:54am

There is some degree of irony in that the Democrat Party, which is now nothing more than organized crime, was the party that most American Catholics called their political home. The Republican Party did favor abortion at one time. Goldwater and Rockefeller were as far apart as two men could be politically and yet they both supported legal abortion.

Ted Kennedy is the reason the Democrat Party supports legal abortion. He always used a cover story that a Catholic priest told him it was okay.

Look at the USCCB. How many are willing to enforce Canon 915? Cardinal Burke and Bishop Bruskewitz did and they were the only ones who did. The Canadian bishops are exactly the same as their American counterparts.

No American Catholic bishop wants to offend the almighty Federal Government in threatening excommunication because that would force them to instruct their priests to talk more about sin at Mass. Can’t have that – it’s better to talk about health care and immigration.

I was just a kid in the 1970s and I listened to my parents tell me how bad the Republican Party was. Jimmy Carter and Ted Kennedy turned me off to the Donkeys before I was old enough to vote. The national GOP has its share of weenies – Boehner, etc., but they are preferable to the criminals that inhabit the Donkey Party. We get the government we deserve and we Catholic have to make the bishops understand that it isn’t Catholic to always support an ever expanding welfare state. The USA cannot afford to give every poor Latino in Central and South America housing, food, health car and clothing. Their governments have a responsibility to their people and they have failed miserably.

Mary De Voe
Sunday, April 19, AD 2015 7:07am

It was “Father” Robert Drinan who concocted the “I’m morally opposed to abortion but I will not impose my morality…”
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The Immaculate Conception defined as dogma in 1854 by the Catholic Church must be embraced by the Democrat or anyone else calling himself Catholic. Mary was immaculate from the very first moment of her existence as all persons are sovereign persons from the very first moment of our existence.

Paul W Primavera
Sunday, April 19, AD 2015 7:48am

“Mary was immaculate from the very first moment of her existence as all persons are sovereign persons from the very first moment of our existence.”
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I do not think that entire statement is incorrect. While the Blessed Virgin Mary was certainly Immaculate, we were born in original sin and hence cannot be described as Immaculate at birth. Innocent of the actual willful commitment of sin yes, but not Immaculate or free from original sin. This human condition exists prior to birth and from conception onward, hence the need for baptism after birth.

Philip
Philip
Sunday, April 19, AD 2015 7:56am

Please bare with me. In my devotional this teaching is appropriate for discussion on this topic. I hope you think so well; If we know God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit we have eternal life. (Jn 17:3). However, if we don’t know the Lord, even if we say we do (1st Jn 2:4), we are caught up in “a great war of ignorance.” (Wisd.14:22). In this state of war and ignorance, people CELEBRATE EITHER CHILD SLAYING SACRIFICES or clandestine mysteries, or frenzied carousels in unheard-of rites, they no longer safeguard either lives or PURE WEDLOCK; but each either waylays and kills his neighbor, or aggrieves him by adultry..And faithlessness, turmoil, perjury, disturbance of good men, neglect of gratitude, besmirching of souls, unnatural lusts, disorder in marriage, adultery and shamelessness.” (Wisd. 14:23-26)

We are to know God. (Phil.3:10).
Ignorance of God is played out daily in our leadership, our political parties, our laws.

Pray harder kind souls…your children deserve a better government. A better life. Not wealthier…but richer in knowledge of God.

Peace.

The teaching was from ONE BREAD ONE BODY. Sunday April 19th 2015.

(emphasis was added.)

Philip
Philip
Sunday, April 19, AD 2015 8:01am

….ps. The teaching ends with; We are to know God.

My opinions followed that last statement.

William P. Walsh
William P. Walsh
Sunday, April 19, AD 2015 1:51pm

I think Mary De Voe is reminding us that no one can be a faithful Catholic without believing life begins at conception, when saying, “Mary was immaculate from the very first moment of her existence as all persons are sovereign persons from the very first moment of our existence.” In the past, one incurred excommunication for joining the Communist Party. May I suggest the same for joining the Democratic Party?

William P. Walsh
William P. Walsh
Sunday, April 19, AD 2015 1:53pm

Please excuse the bad email address above. Computer keyboard problem

Resbo
Resbo
Sunday, April 19, AD 2015 4:48pm

You can’t be a Democrat and a TRUE Christian at the same time because their beliefs are totally contradictory to each others. It’s hypocritical to think you can be both!

lisag
lisag
Sunday, April 19, AD 2015 6:19pm

With all of the medical info today and procedures there really is no reason to say the unborn baby is not a living person. Abortion clinics have know this all along, they just hid it and lied about it. Everyone knows that an pregnant woman has a baby inside. Someone to eat for, to watch over, to prepare for, to name. If a pregnant woman dies you lose two lives just ask anyone who loves them. Especially ask Our Lord and Savor and His Blessed Mother. They will set you straight.

Anzlyne
Anzlyne
Sunday, April 19, AD 2015 8:16pm

That clip of M. Cuomo is a testament to the strength of the human will to pervert human reason. To believe whatever you want to believe..
What vagaries of life bring some people to think what they previously thought unthinkable – I read that Ted Kennedy attended 10 different schools by the time he was 11… he was not good in school, compared unfavorably with others in family by his driven father (who had Ted’s mentally dependent sister tragically lobotomized…) When I first worked in services for developmentally disabled Ted Kennedy gave a clarion call for the human dignity and life of babies born with mental and physical handicaps– but he went from being pro-life–Goldwater arranged the abortion of his grandchild– confusion, disorientation, appeal to self-gratification. The devils’s weapons on modern souls.
That’s when a person needs a good priest.
To today’s “Judas” priests –
Matthew 18.6
‘If any of you put a stumbling-block before one of these little ones who believe in me, it would be better for you if a great millstone were fastened around your neck and you were drowned in the depth of the sea.æ

Michael Paterson-Seymour
Michael Paterson-Seymour
Monday, April 20, AD 2015 6:03am

Lisag wrote, “[T]here really is no reason to say the unborn baby is not a living person”
Who does? The first article of the Veil Law ((Law No. 75-17 of January 1975, concerning the Voluntary Termination of Pregnancy) declares, “The law guarantees respect for every human being from the outset of life. There shall be no derogation from this principle except in cases of necessity and under the conditions laid down by this Law.” This law allows an abortion to be performed before the end of the tenth week of pregnancy by a physician in an approved hospital when a woman who is “in a situation of distress” because of her pregnancy requests the abortion. If two physicians certify, after an examination, that the pregnancy poses a grave danger to the woman’s health or if a strong probability exists that the expected child will suffer from a particularly severe illness recognized as incurable, an abortion may be performed at any time.
Similarly, in his Rethinking Life and Death (1994), Princeton bioethicist, Peter Singer insisted that “[The argument that a fetus is not alive] is a resort to a convenient fiction that turns an evidently living being into one that legally is not alive. Instead of accepting such fictions, we should recognise that the fact that a being is human, and alive, does not in itself tell us whether it is wrong to take that being’s life” and goes on to justify both abortion and infanticide, whilst being a proponent of Animal Rights, a logical consequence of his Preference Utilitarianism. In 2012 a paper in the Journal of Medical Ethics, “After-birth abortion: why should the baby live?” by Alberto Giubilini and Francesca Minerva, expressed similar views.

T. Shaw
T. Shaw
Monday, April 20, AD 2015 6:48am

It is not only abortion. The progressive agenda presumptively politicizes envy and class hatred, employs velvet-glove orgainzed brigandage, and is opposed to the eternal virtues (Faith, Hope, Love, fortitude, justice, prudence, temperance).
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Here is a quote by George Orwell.
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In regards to the humanistic ideal: “Man is the measure of all things and our job is to make life worth living.”
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“But it is not necessary here to argue whether the other-worldly or the humanistic ideal is ‘higher.’ The point is that they are incompatible. One must choose between God and Man, and all ‘radicals’ and ‘progressives’ from the mildest liberal . . . have in effect chosen Man.” Orwell: “Reflections on Gandhi”
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Th secularistic humanists (in catholic clothing) hold to a definition of “Catholic Identity” that differs from the Gospels (seems the only teaching they recognize is using government coersion to comply with St. Matthew’s “final judgment narrative”) and the pre-modernist teachings of the Church, wherein there is no emphasis on the common good, human dignity, global warming, minimum wage, social justice, death penalty, etc.
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Again, one decreases the probability one will get into Heaven when one votes democrat.
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Philip
Philip
Monday, April 20, AD 2015 6:50am

Donald McClarey.

That double-speak reminds me of; “Let your yes mean yes and your no be no, anything more is from the evil one.”
Going from memory here and it seems plainly simple. Killing children at will is from the evil one…and his 28 million conspirators.

Philip
Philip
Monday, April 20, AD 2015 7:03am

Matthew 5:37……the above quote.

Do we make this world complex?
Is it due to our different interpretation of freedom that the need to double-speak is acceptable and upheld in the courthouses across the landscape?

You who wade through endless text in case history and mans law…well God help each and every one of you. Sincerely.

Mary De Voe
Monday, April 20, AD 2015 7:49am

“Translation: the law guarantees respect for every human life except when it doesn’t.”
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Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia responded that all persons must have “due process of law”. The unborn is an un-emancipated minor child with the endowed human rights of the sovereign person. Roe v. Wade never met the burden of proof that the unborn human being was not a person, the individual person protected by the Constitution, guaranteed the same legal protection as any criminal.

Mary De Voe
Monday, April 20, AD 2015 7:59am

Ted Kennedy is the reason the Democrat Party supports legal abortion. He always used a cover story that a Catholic priest told him it was okay.
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As a citizen we are all party to our country’s laws. Therefore that “If you do not like abortion do not have one” is worse than nonsense. We are all complicit and must be about preventing abortion or we are becoming participants.
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Paul: God creates all souls in perfect innocence from the very first moment of existence. Mary was preserved from concupiscence. You and I are not. But this is not to say that you and I have not been created in perfect innocence.

Mary De Voe
Monday, April 20, AD 2015 8:03am

T. Shaw: ““But it is not necessary here to argue whether the other-worldly or the humanistic ideal is ‘higher.’ The point is that they are incompatible. One must choose between God and Man, and all ‘radicals’ and ‘progressives’ from the mildest liberal . . . have in effect chosen Man.” Orwell: “Reflections on Gandhi””
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These have not chosen man. These have rejected God. Man is next on their agenda to be eradicated.

Mary De Voe
Monday, April 20, AD 2015 8:19am

William P Walsh: “” In the past, one incurred excommunication for joining the Communist Party” Thank you for clarifying my comment. I did enjoy reading it.
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Fulton J. Sheen said that Democracy is predicated on the individual sovereign person for whom Jesus comes and who constitutes the government and state. The communist party is about the group. If you do not or cannot support the group you become irrelevant. A rational dissent that goes against the communist party is treason. Jesus Christ, the Son of God, commits treason against the communist party by speaking the Truth. The Democratic party is not longer the party of the individual sovereign person. The Democratic party has become the communist party and it has no soul, no truth, only unmitigated power and contempt for the human person. If the Catholic Church could teach what Bishop Sheen taught about communism, the Church could maintain its separation from politics and still guide souls away from perdition. Where there is a will, there is a way.

Mary De Voe
Monday, April 20, AD 2015 9:36am

The human being is created in perfect innocence and procreated in concupiscence, simultaneously.
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Atheism assumes the form of a man, the atheist, in this case a woman, and sues for sovereignty over all men. The principle of atheism or gay marriage, or communism avoids the censorship of a vice, a vice that denies human personhood, the sovereignty of the human soul and the man’s constitutional freedom by pursuing the form of a man and his innocence… kinda like the bodysnatchers, watermelons and clematis all over the place. People must realize that watermelons and clematis is no persons. Vice does not trump virtue. Principle cannot assume freedom until principle has been determined to be virtue or vice.

Stilbelieve
Stilbelieve
Monday, April 20, AD 2015 9:59am

Remember Boston Congressman Father (Jesuit) Robert Drinan had a pro-abortion voting record the 10 years he served in Congress before Pope JPII disallowed priests from running for political offices. He was quoted as saying abortion “is a small issues.” His bishops originally approved his being a Democrat politician. So, if a Catholic priest can be elected to Congress when he supports abortion, what is surprising about Catholic college educated graduates being pro-abortion and getting elected to Congress?

It is more important to half the Catholics to be Catholic Democrats; Catholic, alone, is not enough for their self identity.

Foxfier
Admin
Monday, April 20, AD 2015 10:22am

Michael Paterson-Seymour on Monday, April 20, A.D. 2015 at 6:03am (Edit)
Lisag wrote, “[T]here really is no reason to say the unborn baby is not a living person”
Who does?

Tons of people.
They’ll even argue biology with you about if an unborn child is “alive” or “human.” Eventually, you can usually get them to recognize they’re using “human” (a species) to mean “person” (a moral category), but that’s only if they don’t just start shrieking about you imposing your “morality” on them.
(If anyone would like some sources to offer for the science part, I think I did a good job on finding objective and hard-to-attack ones for this article:
http://www.catholicstand.com/conspiracies-catholicism-life-science/ )

William P. Walsh
William P. Walsh
Monday, April 20, AD 2015 1:27pm

Mary, I think you are right about the Democratic Party being the new face of communism. They are all about the group and see us not as individuals but as this or that group and all part of the herd to be managed, or by the philosopher kings with the supposed high IQs and the right degrees. They would abort us, control us, disarm us and dispossess us of what we earn. They care nothing for the sovereignty of the individual except in terms of their highly privileged selves as part of the ruling class.

Stilbelieve
Stilbelieve
Monday, April 20, AD 2015 3:41pm

; ” Eventually, you can usually get them to recognize they’re using “human” (a species) to mean “person” (a moral category)…”

I had a year of embryology in college. I know when life begins – human life begins at conception, and as long as it is getting oxygen, nourishment and protection it grows to the point of being born, and even then it needs to be given those 3 elements in order to continue living for years afterward.

Now, the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution has settled the question of human and person. I’ll quote the 14th Amendment: “All person born…and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of he United States and the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due precess of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Cows and horses are born in the U.S., are they citizens? No. What does one have to be that when born in the U.S. they are citizens? One has to be a person, first, such that when born they receive their citizenship automatically. But that is not all the 14th Amendment says. It continues:”…nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

There you have it – one must be a person that when born are citizens. All animals, species, what have you, are not citizens in the U.S. because they were born here, only those humans who are persons before they are born. Being a person has nothing to do with your biological state once you are created.

Foxfier
Admin
Monday, April 20, AD 2015 3:52pm

Suggestion for a shorter phrasing:
“If an individual, when born in the United States, would be a citizen, then that individual is constitutionally speaking a person and thus due full, equal legal protection.”
The if/then format seems to calm folks, if it’s possible.
I didn’t have an embryology class in college, but I did grow up on a ranch, and I’ve had three successful pregnancies and one failure.
“Dead” and “Alive” are really bleeping different, not so much for in or out. 🙂

Foxfier
Admin
Monday, April 20, AD 2015 3:56pm

Being a person has nothing to do with your biological state once you are created.
*big grin* I have had some fun pointing out, on Catholic blogs, that we must believe in rational non-human persons– three Persons, especially, but there’s also the angels who are not exactly known for having a biological state….

Father of seven
Father of seven
Monday, April 20, AD 2015 6:17pm

The cover provided to these politicians by the hierarchy of the Catholic Church here in the United States is the real scandal. Corrupt politicians? To be expected. Year after year of so-called Catholic votes going to the party of Death, the clear byproduct of the failure of Catholic leadership. Time to place the blame where it squarely belongs.

Stilbelieve
Stilbelieve
Tuesday, April 21, AD 2015 12:33am

Foxfier, something else I learned in embryology but never really realized its significance until many years later; Our bodies are made up of three kinds of cells, endoderm, ectoderm, and mesoderm. All three kinds of cells have a destined function in building the body, but they all come out of what is called a primal cell which functions for a specific period of time dispatching the three kinds of cells until each kind of cell takes over the job of reproducing itself to build to completion the body components of the skeleton, organs and muscle/skin tissues. What I realized years later was while science was able to discover the three kinds of cells released by the primal cell, science was never able to find those three cells in the primal cell. In other words, the primal cell was composed of three cells in one.

Aren’t we taught that we are created in the image of God – three in one?

Michael Dowd
Michael Dowd
Tuesday, April 21, AD 2015 2:25am

The Democrat agenda is destroying the United States via divisiveness, welfare-ism, immorality (abortion, sodomy), etc.. Conclusion: the Democrat Party is corrupt.

Most of the Bishops and priests here are Democrats as we note their interest in income redistribution, climate change, open borders combined with, not only their general failure to proclaim and enforce Catholic doctrine, but in fact their desire to weaken it, leads one to the conclusion that many of them are also corrupt.

Now we have Pope Francis, an Obama like presence, who appears to making the corrupt Democrat agenda official teaching in the Church. God Help Us!

Michael Paterson-Seymour
Michael Paterson-Seymour
Tuesday, April 21, AD 2015 3:44am

I really think the word “person” is best avoided in debates around abortion, as it really gets us nowhere.

According to the Veil Law, « La loi garantit le respect de tout être humain dès le commencement de la vie » The context makes clear that “human being [être humain] includes the unborn. Similarly, Art 16 of the Code Civil, declares, “Legislation ensures the primacy of the person [la personne], prohibits any infringement of the latter’s dignity and guarantees respect for the human being [l’être humain] from the outset of life.” Every commentator agrees that “person” and “human being” are here synonymous and also that « l’être humain » bears the same sense, both in Art 16 and in the Loi Veil.

“Person” also raises rather knotty (and totally irrelevant) philosophical questions around identity. In the case of monozygotic twins, which “person” was the zygote?

Finally, “person” has acquired unfortunate connotations in modern usage, with a tendency to identify it with the Cartesian Ego. By extension, we have the “self,” which is simply a misconstrual of the reflexive pronoun. Now, the underlying error here is to think that “I” is a referring expression at all. It is not; no more than “it” is a referring expression in “it is raining.” It follows that “I am MPS” is not an identity proposition, although it is connected to an identity proposition: “this thing here is MPS,” “this thing here” being a living human body (a “person” in the sense of “the person over there,” or “Offences against the Person). “Self-consciousness” is simply reflexive (i.e. non-observational) awareness of the actions, posture, intentions &c of this body.

Foxfier
Admin
Tuesday, April 21, AD 2015 10:40am

Stilbelieve, seeing as He seems to have that kind of a sense of humor, wouldn’t put it past Him!
(Seriously, He told us that the Christ would be called ‘God walks among us’. And folks took it to be a name….)

Micha Elyi
Micha Elyi
Wednesday, April 29, AD 2015 5:26pm

I really do not see how anyone can honestly be a Democrat and faithfully be a Christian at the same time since, oh, 1992.

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