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Housing of Muslim Refugees

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Dale Price at Dyspeptic Mutterings has an interesting take on the housing of Muslim refugees:

 

Senior Obama officials have warned of challenges in screening refugees from Syria.

FBI Director James Comey added in congressional testimony last month that “a number of people who were of serious concern” slipped through the screening of Iraq War refugees, including two arrested on terrorism-related charges. “There’s no doubt that was the product of a less than excellent vetting,” he said.

Although Comey said the process has since “improved dramatically,” Syrian refugees will be even harder to check because, unlike in Iraq, U.S. soldiers have not been on the ground collecting information on the local population. “If we don’t know much about somebody, there won’t be anything in our data,” he said. “I can’t sit here and offer anybody an absolute assurance that there’s no risk associated with this.”

According to DHS, Section 212(d)(3)(B) of the INA allows either the secretary of state or DHS secretary in consultation with each other and with the U.S. Attorney General “to determine that certain terrorism bars of the INA do not apply.”

While Vaughan conceded that there are a number of immigrants seeking protection who have been denied due to unintentional contact with terrorists, she sees the exemptions as likely another opportunity for people to get around the system. 

“If the recent past is any guide, those evaluating these cases will be ordered to ignore red flags in the applications, especially if the applicant is supported by one of the many advocacy groups that have the ear of senior DHS staff,” she explained. “The administration already approves of the admission of gang members as asylees and criminals in the DACA program and grants of prosecutorial discretion, so I don’t expect them to be troubled by the admission of terrorists and garden variety fraudsters in our refugee program.  This is how we end up with families like the Tsarnaev brothers [the Boston marathon bombers], who were originally admitted for political asylum.”

All that said, I’d like to be able to offer help to people who are genuine refugees, regardless of religion. But it’s clear that this whole process is more about making a statement than addressing the genuine security concerns of the American people. If you can convince me that you are making the latter the top priority, then I’m open.
Still, I’m willing to compromise. If we really want to help, let’s take them all in, and place them where they can have the best chance to thrive–America’s wealthiest suburbs. Why should they be sent to some aging suburb with strained finances like Dearborn or into the decayed inner cities in hopes of revitalizing them? Nope–let’s help them hit the ground running.
 
This looks like a promising set of neighborhoods with the resources–especially schools–necessary to get a leg up life. And in many cases, it would sure help with the mosaic of diversity for some of these startlingly-pale enclaves.
 
Let me throw in a few other names–Silver Springs, Chevy Chase, Orange County, the Upper East Side, Arlington, Oakland County, Ann Arbor, the bedroom communities of Philadelphia and Boston…I’m sure you can come up more.
 
And why stop with mere zip codes? Surely, our enlightened private high schools and colleges can set aside blocks of scholarships (Sidwell Friends, answer the call!), residential housing and the like. Why put the burden entirely on local governments and aid groups? Nope. If we’re going to make sacrifices, that includes the privileged and portfolioed in bi-coastal gated communities.
 
If they are not willing to make such sacrifices, that tells you all you need to know about this process.

Go here to read the rest.  Might I suggest that every bishop calling for the admission of Muslim refugees agree to take in several at his residence?  We have a bad record lately of people calling for other people to be forced to do things that normally would be regarded as charity, and the bishops have been highly supportive of this coerced compassion by and large.  Time for them to have some personal skin in the game.
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Philip
Philip
Wednesday, November 18, AD 2015 12:56pm

A Sheppard us to lead the flock. Not push them into harms way. I’m with you.
Time for each Bishop to ante up or shut up.

Philip
Philip
Wednesday, November 18, AD 2015 12:57pm

is to lead..
typo. sorry.

T. Shaw
T. Shaw
Wednesday, November 18, AD 2015 1:25pm

Two questions: How much will it cost? How will you pay for it?

Clinton
Clinton
Wednesday, November 18, AD 2015 2:51pm

“If they are not willing to make such sacrifices, that tells you all you need to
know about this process.”

With that in mind, consider also the fact that other Muslim, wealthy, relatively
stable nations such as Saudi Arabia, Dubai, the UAE, etc. have declined to
take in any of these ‘refugees’ at all.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Wednesday, November 18, AD 2015 5:54pm

With that in mind, consider also the fact that other Muslim, wealthy, relatively
stable nations such as Saudi Arabia, Dubai, the UAE, etc. have declined to
take in any of these ‘refugees’ at all.


Unlike Mark Shea, it’s a reasonable inference they understand that someone who leaves a refugee camp to find better digs in Sweden (or offers the cover story that he was in a refugee camp while looking for better digs in Sweden) is not, strictly speaking, a refugee from that point forward. Also, countries with a modest indigene population and a large population of guest workers tend to be touchous about security and who they allow in the door.

It does not seem to occur to any of these attitudinizing putzes that if you’re concerned about the welfare of actual Syrian refugees, the simple response is to send mo’ money to improve the facilities in the refugee camps. More potable water, more latrines, more quonset huts.

Penguins Fan
Penguins Fan
Wednesday, November 18, AD 2015 9:04pm

Poland has spoken. “POLAND’S NEW RIGHT-WING GOVERNMENT SUGGESTS SENDING SYRIANS BACK TO ‘LIBERATE’ THEIR COUNTRY”.
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/11/18/polands-new-right-wing-government-suggests-sending-syrians-back-to-liberate-their-country/

Hungary and the Czech Republic agree with Poland on Muslim refugees. Does the Roman Pontiff notice? Does he notice anything that doesn’t come from +Kasper, +Danneels, +Marx or +Maradiaga?

BPS
BPS
Thursday, November 19, AD 2015 7:14am

Poland’s right, Penguins Fan. We could take the Christians or Zorastrians that are being subject to genocide, but NOT ONE muslim. The Shia subscribe to Taqiyya and the Sunni to Kitman. The youngest Tsarnaev brother came to US as a 10 year old. Those 3 year olds that Obama wants to bring here will be wanting to kill Americans in 15 years. If we want to help them, help them in Turkey or elsewhere in the middle east.

T. Shaw
T. Shaw
Thursday, November 19, AD 2015 8:05am

It all makes perfect sense when you understand that Obama, the media, the academy are for Islam and against (evil, unjust, racist) America. You need to know that their enemies are you and me; Christians and the GOP.
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I’m living Irish democracy. It’s how the little people eventually kicked Britain out of Ireland.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Thursday, November 19, AD 2015 8:22am

Prof. Alex Tabarrok inadvertantly revealed what lies behind the insistence upon housing Syrians and faux-Syrians in Nebraska rather than in Anatolia.

http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2015/11/syrian-refugees-jelly-beans-and-murderers.html

Philip
Philip
Thursday, November 19, AD 2015 11:27am

According to The Washington Times; “The Syrian refugees are no more dangerous than tourist.”. President Barack Hussein Obama.

WoW! I can finally get some sleep knowing everything is safe! After all. Obama would not lie to the American people. ( wink wink nudge nudge )

When he places his daughter’s in a Syrian refugee camp for 90 days, and they emerge with their smiling faces, THEN..maybe I’ll believe his tripe. Until that happens..Obama who?

T. Shaw
T. Shaw
Thursday, November 19, AD 2015 2:12pm

The talking heads have their knickers in a bunch over Americans’ reluctance at bringing more heathens into American.
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Sad news from (September my son rotated out of this battalion) 1st Battalion, 187th Infantry, 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 101st Division – Air Assault:
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“Killed in action 1LT Dennis Zilinski, 23 of Freehold, N.J; assigned to the 1st Battalion, 187th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 101st Airborne Division, Fort Campbell, Ky; killed Nov. 19 when an improvised explosive device detonated near his Humvee during combat operations in Bayji, Iraq. Also killed were Staff Sgt. Edward Karolasz, Cpl. Jonathan F. Blair, and Spc. Dominic J. Hinton.”
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The release does not identify the company. I imagine my son knew these brave men.

T. Shaw
T. Shaw
Thursday, November 19, AD 2015 2:13pm

PS: Ne Desit Virtus

Stilbelieve
Stilbelieve
Thursday, November 19, AD 2015 3:24pm

The truth about “welcoming the stranger” (Mt 25, 35) is not being discussed; it’s just accepted by the U.S. bishops that it is anybody. But according to my Catholic bible, The New American Bible 1989/1990, it says in the footnote for Mt 31-46 – “A difficult and important question is the identification for the ‘least brothers’ (v40). Are they all people who have suffered hunger, thirst etc (35,36) or a particular group of such sufferers?”

The answer to that important question asked in the footnote contradicts what the USCCB is saying and promoting. Mt 25, 35 is NOT referring to “all people” but a particular group of people, which it then says who they are and makes reference to another chapter and verse that leads credibility to their identification .

The legal immigrants as well as the illegal aliens are not in that “particular group of people.” Therefore, common sense and safety are the leading factors in determining what to do about these “refugees.,” not the current mistaken teaching of the bishops.

Who were those people who were given food, water and welcomed? Missionaries, Christian missionaries. Proof? Remember when Jesus first sent out his disciples – The 72 in pairs? He told them to take no supplies with them, resulting in their having to depend on how people would respond to their disciplining and treat them. Not stated but implied, it was also a test of those peoples in foreign places whether they will listen to God’s “whispering” to them or not. So, it was a test of both the disciples and the discipled if they hear the word of God and follow it.

Immigrants, legal or illegal, are not missionaries.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Thursday, November 19, AD 2015 3:55pm
T. Shaw
T. Shaw
Thursday, November 19, AD 2015 4:12pm

Here’s the 500 lb. gorilla in the room. There are about 800 other places besides the USA (what 8,000 miles away from Syria) that could take in the so-called refugees.
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Matthew, alone among the Evangelists, presents the Last Judgment narrative, and the “What you did unto the least of my brothers” meme.
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Little noted nor long remembered (pick and choose post-modern Catholicism) is the earlier Matthew chapter wherein our Lord and Savior was asked, “Who is your brother and sister?” Christ specifically defined His brother/sister as anybody that does His Father’s Will. So, it depends. Everyman may or may not be Christ’s brother. I’m pretty sure the Muslim is not doing the God the Father’s will.
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Foxfier
Admin
Thursday, November 19, AD 2015 4:26pm

Might I suggest that every bishop calling for the admission of Muslim refugees agree to take in several at his residence? We have a bad record lately of people calling for other people to be forced to do things that normally would be regarded as charity, and the bishops have been highly supportive of this coerced compassion by and large.

This isn’t a bad idea– how about refugees come in based on having people who will sponsor them, specifically? Provide housing and food, introduce them to the culture, help them become part of the US.
Not the way that a lot of groups “help” refugees, by getting them signed up for programs and being sort of institutionally responsible, although a parish would be a pretty good choice for a support group.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Thursday, November 19, AD 2015 4:30pm

Whether he is or he is not, the welfare of Syrian refugees can be seen to in the Near East. You need the funds and the skilled personnel.

Now, stop and think about this. Why does Obama want to import 10,000 refugees? UNHCR reports that there are 217,000 in Turkish camps and has a somewhat perplexing figure of 3,000,000 total somewhere in Jordan, Lebanon, and Turkey. What’s the deal with importing 10,000 here? It smells an awful lot like his periodic gun control fan dance. It’s either public posturing or its an effort to set some sort of legal precedent which will be used by Democratic Party lawfare artists later, or it’s an effort to set of a chain migration lallapalooza.

William P. Walsh
William P. Walsh
Thursday, November 19, AD 2015 4:39pm

I do not recall our current President uttering a single word of concern for Christians being martyred in the Middle East. Please correct my inattentiveness, if needed. That is not to say we should be uncaring for the genuine needs of others but there are certainly better and more safe ways to provide for them than opening our borders to almost certain invasion by our deadly enemies. I am thoroughly amazed at our current President’s uncanny ability to decide almost every controversial issue to the detriment of most American citizens. I refrain from questioning the state of his soul but I freely question the state of his mind.

Philip
Philip
Thursday, November 19, AD 2015 5:12pm

Just finished Marks slamdance.

His tee shirt reads;

Stay Calm.
Remember the
Nazis
Were just mis
understood.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Thursday, November 19, AD 2015 7:01pm

I am thoroughly amazed at our current President’s uncanny ability to decide almost every controversial issue to the detriment of most American citizens.

http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2002/09/19/one-uppers_versus_survival/page/full

I think Thomas Sowell has the president’s number. The man’s standard issue of a certain type.

William P. Walsh
William P. Walsh
Thursday, November 19, AD 2015 10:22pm

Thank you Art Deco, Sowell’s last sentence sums it up. “But the tragedy is that millions of other people’s survival is also at stake.”

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