Do Cop Lives Matter?

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Horrific:

 

Eleven police officers were shot ambush-style, including five fatally, in Dallas Thursday night by at least two snipers, amid a protest against the recent police shootings of two black men, Alton Sterling in Louisiana, and Philando Castile in Minnesota, according to the Dallas Police.

One of the suspects had engaged in a standoff for several hours with police, but a Dallas city official announced around 3:30 a.m. that it was over. It was not immediately known what his condition was.

The condition of the six wounded officers remains unknown. One civilian was also injured.

Officials said the gunmen aimed to kill as many officers as possible.

 

Go here to read the rest.  Well, the demagogues and racists of the Black Lives Matter movement have what they have been aiming at all along:  dead cops.  In a nation of more than 330 million it is easy to start a “hate the cops” movement among blacks when such a high percentage of the adult male black population has engaged in crime, and as a result has a tense, at best, relationship with law enforcement, including black cops.  This involvement has nothing to do with race and everything to do with the devastating impact of the welfare state on poor blacks.  As black economist Thomas Sowell has noted:

You cannot take any people, of any color, and exempt them from the requirements of civilization — including work, behavioral standards, personal responsibility, and all the other basic things that the clever intelligentsia disdain — without ruinous consequences to them and to society at large. Non-judgmental subsidies of counterproductive lifestyles are treating people as if they were livestock, to be fed and tended by others in a welfare state — and yet expecting them to develop as human beings have developed when facing the challenges of life themselves. One key fact that keeps getting ignored is that the poverty rate among black married couples has been in single digits every year since 1994. Behavior matters and facts matter, more than the prevailing social visions or political empires built on those visions.

Go here to read the rest.  I doubt if we will get them, but this country desperately needs two “honest conversations:”  on race and on the welfare state.  Instead, we will get more racist demagoguery, most from the left in an attempt to stoke black voter turnout in November, useless calls for gun control, and race hustlers attempting to use tragedy to build power and wealth for themselves.

 

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20 Comments

  1. Agree, “this country desperately needs two “honest conversations:” on race and on the welfare state.” The Democrat policy of containment has obviously failed, e.g. Detroit. One idea to fix this is to not allow folks on welfare to vote as they will vote for more welfare. This, of course, would be the end of the corrupt Democrat party which uses bribes such as welfare to win votes. But I am afraid things will have to get a whole lot worse before anything happens.

  2. No, hope and change.
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    Mr. Dowd, that (bread and circuses) is part the problem. But, your solution will never happen.
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    Pray for the best. Prepare for the worst.

  3. Shea achieved peak tackiness by posting last night:

    Dear Simcha Fisher
    I have to head up to Canada today and will be unavailable for lunatic comments comparing me to Satan for noticing the bleeding obvious.

    So could you do me a solid and cover my shift in your comboxes by taking the lunatics who compare me to Satan for noticing that Philandro Castile was butchered in cold blood for doing all things that a citizen of the United States is supposed to do while crazy gun-toting white “patriots” are still breathing despite posing an obvious menace?

    Thanks!

    Paragraph 2 is entirely a link to a short post by Simcha pretty much stating the same thing. The only person who managed to be even tackier was Vox Day’s post today (but then I don’t think anybody’s looked to him for good taste).

    I think what bugs me most about these people is… You notice a problem in the country? Fine, voice it, bring it up, then ask for suggestions on improving it. But no, the modern know-nothings of the internet continue to opine on and on about stuff without ever bothering to inform themselves of the details.

    You have a problem with the cops? Ok, fine. What laws and regulations, specifically need to be changed? Which procedures need to be changed? Should we form a citizen committee to oversee the hiring/firing of individuals for the law? Will you sit on it? The legal system of civilization is as complex and intricate as any machine and you can’t just say “i want X!” and expect to get it any more than screaming those words at your computer will produce the result you want.

    Of course nobody does any of that – not even the simplest research (or to find someone who has done the research). Because to do any of that would require effort, and in modern society ‘effort’ is a filthier F-word than the four-letter euphemism for sex.

  4. Ah, isn’t that sweet, Shea and Fisher, like good little leftists, doing their best to stoke racial hate. Here is Fisher’s blog post, preserved for posterity before she takes it down:

    “On July 6, 2016, police were involved in a violent altercation with an armed man. 62-year-old William Bruce Ray was pointing a shotgun at passing cars on the highway.

    Police arrived, assessed the situation, and wrestled the gun away from him. During the struggle, Ray brought out a handgun and fired it. Police eventually got Ray under control and took him into custody.

    He had two guns.

    He was openly threatening the lives of passers by.

    He tried to kill policemen.

    He is still alive.

    He is white.

    That’s all I have to say.”
    – See more at: http://aleteia.org/blogs/simchafisher/but-philando-castile-was-black/#sthash.fY9T1wDK.dpuf

    Some of the comments to this are very good:

    1 hour ago
    Barbara Stein

    “This kind of sh*t-stirring is what lead to five police officers dead. If you produce more anger and hatred for people, don’t say it. What would Our Lord have done? Fight?”

    2 hours ago
    nope

    “When that is all you have to say, you contribute to the atmosphere that leads to Dallas.”

    10 hours ago
    Pete Thegreek

    “He is still alive.

    He is white.

    That’s all I have to say.”

    “So, I’ve been thinking about this today, probably shouldn’t have been, but I was. The more I did, the more I realized how witless, vile, bigoted and stupid your snide little aside is here. Your implication being that cops won’t shoot white people like they do black people. I really want to think you believe that because you’re too lazy to actually fact check, but I’m not sure.

    So, just to clear this up:

    So far, in the year 2016, police across the United States have shot and killed 279 whites. Over the exact same time period, the police have killed 136 blacks. So, no, lots more whites get killed by police than blacks.

    Oh, and just among the recently killed whites, there was an 18 y/o named Dylan Noble. The police shot and killed him in the street, even though he was totally unarmed. Now I looked back through your blog here and through Mark Shea’s blog for any mention of him and found, well, nothing. His death was not politically useful, so it will be ignored by both of you, just like the rest of the 278. Had he been black, you and Mark would both be screaming about how racist the cops obviously were, but since he was white, he has only a few friends to remember him.

    You didn’t even know his name until I posted it here.

    Screen capping this for later.”

    – See more at: http://aleteia.org/blogs/simchafisher/but-philando-castile-was-black/#sthash.fY9T1wDK.dpuf

    When it comes to clueless leftists like Shea and Fisher, the statement of Orwell comes to mind:

    “So much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don’t even know that fire is hot.”

  5. Did you see the comment Shea left on Fischer’s article?

    Whites with guns are patriots. Blacks with guns are thugs. That’s secret formula. I believe the custom at this point is to turn the conversation to abortion and say that this murder doesn’t matter because more black people die by abortion. The use of the unborn as human shields for every Right Wing Culture of Death Talking Points has brought the “prolife” movement’s credibility right down in the sewer. Attention Right Wing: be more prolife, not less. Defend the unborn *and* innocent people killed by police violence. When unarmed black men have a 700% higher chance of dying at the hands of cops then unarmed white men, that’s not a statistical oddity. It’s racism and your party has declared itself its champion by nominating Donald Trump. Face it.

    What’s “funny” is that NOBODY brought up abortion at all until Shea did. The man’s writings have really become unmoored from reality.

  6. Mark-who?
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    What a maroon. No! I apologize for insulting morons.
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    The Obama/race-baiting/hope and change meme is the regime’s and the media’s SOP/go-to/default setting/knee-jerk.
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    And, five Dallas PO’s are KIA.
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    Mr. Castile may be a Second Amendment martyr. One could assign blame to anti-Second Amendment hysteria for Mr. Castile’s tragic death. Mr. Castile’s fatal mistake was to try to do the “right thing” by informing the PO that he had in his possession a legal/permitted concealed carry weapon, and then reach for his ID.

  7. We’ve been through this before, sadly. Despite what I heard on NPR this morning, we’re not really searching for a motive for the mass murder of the Dallas police officers (NPR needs help on this score, since they also couldn’t figure out the motive for the Orlando night club shootings).
    In 2014 in early December Obama criticized the police and injected race into the killings of Eric Garner in NYC and Michael Brown in Ferguson. He said “this is not a black issue, this is an American issue.” Later, a grand jury found insufficient evidence to indict the officers in the Garner case, and the shooting of Brown turned out to be justified according to Obama’s own Justice Department. On December 21, within weeks of Obama’s premature judgments about Garner and Brown’s deaths, NYPD Officers Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu were shot in their patrol car by 28-year-old Ismaaiyl Brinsley, who said on social media he was motivated by the deaths of Brown and Garner.
    Early yesterday, Obama again took to the airwaves to pronounce on two police shootings that had just occurred and were nowhere near being fully investigated to find out exactly what happened. No problem for Obama, who opined: “When incidents like this occur, there is a big chunk of our fellow citizenry that feels as if because of the color of their skin they are not being treated the same. And that hurts. And that should trouble all of us. This is not just a black issue, not just a Hispanic issue. This is an American issue.” (note the exact same language as in 2014).
    Within 24 hours of Obama’s statement, 5 Dallas police officers lie dead at the hands of a heavily armed (including bombs) militant at a supposedly peaceful Black Lives Matter rally.
    Mr. President, for God’s sake, stop stoking the fires of racial resentment, especially when you don’t even take a pause to wait for investigations to figure out all the facts and circumstances. Your rhetoric is dishonest, and is always followed by multiple cop killings. Some people might conclude you want to incite violence. Prove them wrong, and just shut up next time.

  8. After making rash-judgments from afar, Obama comes out for gun-control. How about a little mouth-control, Mr. Provocateur-in-Chief. On the Left, everything is politicized and all the answers are to be derived from more and more government and less and less personal freedom and the personal responsibility that goes with it.

  9. . The Michael Brown case has no place in the discussion of innocent blacks being killed…yet his name was conflated with such twice in the nytimes today. We (excepting his mom) now know he was not holding up his hands and two agencies found the same groups of false witnesses and credible witnesses which latter matched the forensic evidence. He was leaving a robbery as the cop had been warned and was 292 pounds at 6’4″ and coming toward the 6’4″ but 210 lb. officer after already having punched the officer and trying to get his gun…a minute prior. The reason he was shot 6 times is because if 9mm bullets keep hitting non vital organs ( arm in this case twice )…the person keeps moving toward you. There was a case of a man getting 24 bullets in him and only then did he die. Ergo in home defense, I again vote for the shotgun as to stopping power….although marksmen with pistols hitting vital organs for sure are another option. I’m sure there were many black victims of Michael Brown’s size and immorality in his neighborhood…who were glad he went to his individual judgement. They’ll never say it. But they are relieved. They’ll never write an op ed as Brown’s mother did today in the nytimes….but they’re relieved he went to judgement.

  10. He’s been spending all his life living in a Mark Shea Paradise. Calumniating is his life living in a Mark Shea Paradise. Libel and slander and libel, puts it on his blog and justifies it from the bible. If you have a fact that needs some obfuscation you can have a talk with Mark for a minor donation. Why is it so hard to see, almost three hundred pounds of calumny.

  11. Oh he made it to a computer today and seems to be furiously trying to make up now. Let’s see he has posts titled (along with some text when appropriate)…

    “Guardians, Not Warriors” – Heard a really interesting interview on my drive up to Canada yesterday about the right and wrong way to form cops so that they approach their work as guardians of the common good and not (as does happen) as militarized warriors against a subject population.

    “This entirely civil and Christian video” – …is without any possible comparison the most searing indictment of white privilege I can imagine

    “Prayers for Dallas” – Followed by such and a meme image from Martin Luthor King, Jr.

    “More of this” – Followed by an actually good picture (though it makes you wonder why he doesn’t go out searching for more pictures like that).

    “Common Sense” – Containing only a daily show clip. Because we all know how unbiased and common sensical that show is.

    Again, a bunch of mushy-headed emotionalism that further proves how addicted Shea has become to the spiritual equivalent of junk food with nothing actually nutritious. Compare his posts to someone like Peter Grant who actually worked as a prison chaplain and it becomes plain to see that the popular voice for the “new catholic evangelical movement” is one who has shed all his spiritual clothes.

  12. Bill Bannon, your comment on the 9 m/m Parabellum cartridge is interesting. “There was a case of a man getting 24 bullets in him and only then did he die.” This reminds me of the Army’s experience with the .38 Long Colt cartridge in the Philippines. The poor terminal ballistic performance of that cartridge led to the adoption of the .45 ACP in 1911.
    A police officer should draw his weapon only when clearly justified, and I understand that police training does not recommend the mere winging of a genuine threat but the positive stopping of that threat. The systemic shock of being hit by a .45 usually accomplishes that task. My work experience was elsewhere so I’ll simply observe with Gilbert & Sullivan that “a policeman’s lot is not a happy one.” I hesitate to make a recommendation for home defense, The best weapon is surely that which one can most competently use.

  13. Will and Bill, I think both of you may enjoy this video of an activist undergoing some police training scenarios.

  14. Thank you Nate, for the reality of it. We have, of late, let Pajama Boy control the conversation.

  15. If I had a nickel for every column I’ve seen about Mark Shea, Ross Douthat, and Michael Voris, I’d be a rich man. If I had a nickel less for every column I’ve read written by any of them, it’d cost me less than a quarter.

    I feel like we spend too much time on trolls. I was thinking about that after reading the recent anti-“God Bless America” article linked to here. I got angry with myself afterwards – why did I waste my time on it? There can be value in keeping up with what one’s opponents think, but there’s no value in reading trolls. On another blog, someone made the comment that we should always respond to violence with anger. I replied that anger makes us more prone to violence. If we just stopped goading each other – not rebuking, not debating, but goading – how much better off would we be?

  16. I replied that anger makes us more prone to violence. If we just stopped goading each other – not rebuking, not debating, but goading – how much better off would we be?

    I once read a book called “the Silence of Adam” which proposed that according to the text, there is a heavy implication that Adam was actually right beside Eve, present when the serpent tempted her. Even if not true, it is an applicable Aesop about the dangers of standing silent and letting lies be whispered such that others are led astray. This isn’t a call to always answer trolls (they do love attention) but not everyone that disagrees is a troll either. Shea has set himself up enough as a thought leader that it can be unwise to leave him unchallenged.
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    Plus some of us remember when he used to be better so it’s also a eulogy for mind and wit that’s ruining itself.

  17. Nate…..great video and a step forward that the activist agreed to the experience and changed somewhat.
    William….yes I’m aware that the 45 is one of the best stopping power rounds but if you miss and the shell goes out your window and into a neighbor’s, then a 20 gauge does the stopping power part but it’s lethality vitiates with neighborhood travel and that travel spreads out the pellets to that same safer end.

  18. Bill Bannon, you make a good point. There are also frangible bullets for the purpose. It is such a lugubrious subject that I’d not even discuss it but to give at least the best advice. We live out in the country but many live just a bit of paint and sheetrock away from their neighbors. No universal answers, except pray always.

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