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PopeWatch: Luther v. Pope Francis Open Thread

 

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Mary De Voe
Mary De Voe
Wednesday, August 30, AD 2017 7:54am

Luther did not accept that when the Sacred Species is consecrated, the consecrated Body and Blood of Jesus Christ remains under the appearances of bread and wine until the bread and wine is dissolved. Luther taught that after the Consecration of the Sacred Species and the reception by the priest, when the parishioners received the Sacred Species and they did not believe in the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ in Holy Communion, the Sacred Species was not received by them.
It would appear that Luther closed the door on the Body and Blood of Christ to remain in the bread and wine until dissolution.

Mary De Voe
Mary De Voe
Wednesday, August 30, AD 2017 8:48am

In my own opinion, the free will act of accepting the Faith, a gift from God is the beginning of “works”, as it is an act. Belief in God is a free will act that shines through our very being to inspire other people. This is more than accepting Jesus Christ as our Savior and then letting Him do all the heavy lifting. It is a constant witness to Jesus Christ.
The singular path forward to forgive and forgiveness is evangelization. “Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us.”
Evangelization is the only way to forgive seven times seventy, as Jesus did and for all people.
“Thus it is written; and thus the Christ should suffer, and should rise again on the third day; and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in His name to all the nations, beginning from Jerusalem.” Confraternity Version.
“Do unto others as you would be done unto” is also a call to the Spiritual and Corporal works of mercy. While these are opportunities, to forgive through evangelization is NOT optional. It is a command given to the Apostles after Christ being raised from the dead and before His Ascension into heaven.

Mary De Voe
Mary De Voe
Wednesday, August 30, AD 2017 8:54am

Matthew Fradd of Catholic Answers has a youtube video entitled: Ten Myths About Pornography in which he describes the scientific evidence of how the good part of the brain is shrunk by pornography so that more and more is never enough and how to defeat the addiction.
His work to protect children from pornography is online to be downloaded.
Pornography is NOT free speech. PORNOGRAPHY IS A LIE ABOUT HUMAN SEXUALITY and perjury in a court of law.

Mary De Voe
Mary De Voe
Wednesday, August 30, AD 2017 8:57am

Kidnapping is the violation of the dominion (the personal space) of the person, the sovereignty of the person and the integrity of the person’s informed consent.
The law prescribes that all minor children remain in school until sixteen years of age. The parents of their child remain their primary teachers while public school teachers teach in loco parentis”, by power of attorney, surrogates, in the place of parents.
All this said, the atheist, Madalyn Murray O’Hair, by virtual attendance refused to allow her son, John Murray to be exposed to prayer in the public school. The Supreme Court said that “she may go her own way”. Freedom from religion was reinforced by this decision. O’Hair’s freedom from religion was inflicted on every citizen in the United States.
The parent, who is an ordinary citizen, and the taxpayer who pays the salaries and cost of the school, too, might attend public school to interact with his child in a virtual or real manner, according to his desire, to ensure that his child says grace before meals and invokes Divine Providence as a protection from all evil.
Another law states that any customer who patronizes a restaurant is free to inspect the kitchen where his food is prepared.
How is this law different from the law that would suspend the parents’ innate human rights to supervise their child’s education and public school environment in regards to his spiritual exercises?

Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus
Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus
Wednesday, August 30, AD 2017 10:44am

I like the video. It perfectly depicts our post-Vatican II hippie Pope. What is truly sad is that even Protestants such as those at Lutheran Satire recognize that Jorge Bergoglio is the donkey’s hind end. We are the laughing stock of Christendom.

Mary De Voe
Mary De Voe
Wednesday, August 30, AD 2017 5:20pm

LCQ Today Pope Francis put all of creation and the planet before the human being. Great Gaia.

Mary De Voe
Mary De Voe
Wednesday, August 30, AD 2017 5:50pm

It has just occurred to me that if Pope Francis is willing to give Holy Communion to adulterers, fornicators, sodomites and lesbians, to valid their circumstances, he must believe that they cannot receive the Sacred Species unless they believe that Holy Communion is the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ, as the Lutherans do. I suspect that this heresy came about because Luther did not believe in the Sacred Species himself. The Sacred Species remains the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ until the bread and wine dissolve.

Mary De Voe
Mary De Voe
Wednesday, August 30, AD 2017 5:52pm

“to validate their circumstances”

Penguins Fan
Penguins Fan
Wednesday, August 30, AD 2017 6:03pm

The current Roman Pontiff is really a pawn in the hands of the German episcopate, specifically Kasper and Marx. Take a look at Marx. He is about 100 pounds overweight and he hasn’t missed a meal in years. The German Church wants to keep the ever-shrinking Church Tax money flowing in so their solution is to dumb down the faith in Germany. Allow those who divorced and remarried to get Communion and they will stick around, or so their conventional wisdom goes. Buy influence in poor South American dioceses and they will do a lot like what the US bishops do with federal government money for Catholic Charities – water down the Faith to keep the money rolling in.

Luther was a Class A schmuck. He was an egomaniac who thought he and he alone possessed the best insight on Scripture and threw away what he did not like. He wasn’t much on opposing Islam until it came close to him.

Pornography really should be attacked legally by a different angle. Participants in pornographic media are paid to perform their acts. In my untrained, naive legal mind, this amounts to prostitution, which is illegal almost everywhere. Since prostitution is illegal almost everywhere, so should media that shows it should be just as illegal. I would be curious how much Verizon, AT&T and Comcast profit by providing porn channels. Porn turns women into objects and damages men’s minds.

Mary De Voe
Mary De Voe
Thursday, August 31, AD 2017 7:23am

Thank you. Penguins Fan

Philip Nachazel
Philip Nachazel
Thursday, August 31, AD 2017 9:02am

Penguins Fan.

I join in Mary’s appreciation.. thank you.

Your right.
Censorship and right to free press, free speech infringement…. these are the hurdles to clear but cleared they must in order to put pornography in the proper category, prostitution.

This is a catastrophic illness that is being treated like a seasonal cold…and the seriousness of this plague is truly catastrophic. Visiting prisoners is a ministry I share in. The numbers of men involved in sexual predator crimes, child molestation and invasion of privacy via video is increasing… based upon visits to prison.

Mary De Voe
Mary De Voe
Thursday, August 31, AD 2017 3:12pm

This is an expanded version of the above comment:
Luther did not accept that when the Sacred Species is consecrated, the consecrated Body and Blood of Jesus Christ remains under the appearances of bread and wine until the bread and wine is dissolved. Luther taught that after the Consecration of the Sacred Species and the reception by the priest, when the parishioners received the Sacred Species and they did not believe in the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ in Holy Communion, the Sacred Species was not received by them.
It would appear that Luther closed the door on the Body and Blood of Christ to remain in the bread and wine until dissolution. I appears that Luther believed that man, priest and layperson, transubstantiates the Sacred Species.
The priest is empowered to convene the Holy Spirit over the gifts of the bread and wine and petition the Holy Spirit of God to transubstantiate the Sacred Species, the Body and Blood of Our Lord, Jesus Christ.
The Sacrament of Holy Orders empowers the priest to invoke the Holy Spirit of God. No layperson of the lay priesthood is empowered to invoke the Holy Spirit of God to transubstantiate the Sacred Species. This would be considered blasphemy and a sin against the Holy Spirit.
It has just occurred to me that if Pope Francis is willing to give Holy Communion to adulterers, fornicators, sodomites and lesbians to validate their circumstances, Pope Francis must believe that they, the priest and the laypeople transubstantiate the Sacred Species of their own accord. Pope Francis must believe that the laypeople cannot receive the Sacred Species unless they believe that Holy Communion is the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ, as the Lutherans do. I suspect that this heresy came about because Luther did not believe in the transubstantiation of the Sacred Species through the power of the Holy Spirit of God, and through the sacred faculties imprinted on him and all priests thorough the Sacrament of Holy Orders of the Catholic Church.
The Sacred Species remains the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ until the bread and wine dissolve.

CAM
CAM
Thursday, August 31, AD 2017 11:22pm

Ted Bundy on death row admitted that his use of progressively hard core porn led him to become a murderer.
On the diocese of Arlington VA website there’s a section on addictions and pornography is discussed there. Most of the time the use of porn and it’s consequences is a dirty little secret. Is it ever a subject spoken about in pre-Cana? Are the pitfalls of porn discussed in h.s. religion classes or. Sex Ed? (which nowadays brings up all sorts of abberations and how tos.) .Among the many pamphlets in the back of the church is there one set out on that topic? Or even a detailed examination of conscience?
I suspect that many a wife is surprised, perhaps devastated is a better word, when she discovers that her husband is using pornography. To paraphrase the late Princess Diana it is the third person in the marriage from the wife’s perspective. Most likely the use of porn is an underlying reason for many divorces. With the internet and private browsers, the drug and it’s destructiveness is only a key stroke away.

Mary De Voe
Mary De Voe
Friday, September 1, AD 2017 7:00am

Pornography users are disconnected from reality. Using pornography is an addiction that becomes a mental illness because of the damage pornography causes in the brain. 40% of pornography users are female.. Our culture inflicts soft porn on all. Minor children, a captive audience must be shielded from porn for the common good. Good will for the common good is demanded of citizens.

CAM
CAM
Saturday, September 2, AD 2017 1:16am

“40% of porn users are female.” That’s a sad surprise.

Mary De Voe
Mary De Voe
Sunday, September 3, AD 2017 7:57pm

LIFE IS THE EXPERIENCE OF GOD
Tabula rasa is the concept that the newly begotten sovereign person who wills in his free will to survive is a clean slate. Tabula rasa is the concept that the human being has no self-awareness or consciousness of himself of who he is and why he is. And not unlike a clean black board that has an absence of mark, the person brought into existence has not undergone any experience of life.
The person brought into existence from the very first moment of his existence institutes the sovereign nation, the sovereign state and the sovereign human species through his sovereign personhood endowed at the very first moment of his existence and his free will act to survive.
In short, the newly begotten human being in sovereignty over himself experiences his “Creator” and acts freely to continue experiencing his “Creator” in life.
The newly begotten and conceived individual of the human species acknowledges his “Creator” through his sovereign personhood by his existence. The immanent dwelling of the rational, immortal, human soul in the human body, growing under the direction of the form of the body, the rational soul, testifies to the will and the free will act of the individual to survive, to experience life and to acknowledge his “Creator” in life.
Sovereign personhood is the rational soul of the person in his human body, his tabula rasa.
His personality is who is formed by his free will choices and desires. This is the sovereign person’s personality who is being brought into existence from the very first moment of existence unto the very last moment of life in his human body, when the rational immortal soul returns to his “Creator”, or what we on earth call death. So help me God.

Mary De Voe
Mary De Voe
Sunday, September 3, AD 2017 7:59pm

There is a dead body in the closet. The police break in without a search warrant. The evidence of the dead person is admissible in a court of law because the dead sovereign person has civil rights even when dead. SEE: Last Will and Testament. The dead person’s Last will and Testament was for his murderers to be brought to Justice.
The presence of the sovereign person even when dead must be acknowledged and served. The release of the dead person from his murderer is justification for the search and rescue of the sovereign person who is the victim of homicide.
The murderer, to enjoy civil rights must have good will for the common good. Hiding the victim of homicide is not good will. The murderer cannot give a good account of himself and therefore must be investigated and may be investigated without the preliminary search warrant. Yes, but did the murderer read his victim Miranda rights?
David Daleiden investigated those who would violate innocent sovereign persons and sell their body parts like commodity. David Daleiden did not need permission to video a crime. Permission is self-evident by the testimony of the persons being mutilated for profit. The victims are dead but their sovereign civil rights continue as their immortal souls are immortalized by their very deaths. Yes, the victims are immortalized by the crimes committed against them. The criminals must be brought to Justice for that is the American Way. Judges who are ignorant of Justice must be removed from the bench. Planned Parenthood must be defunded by Congress, the voice of the people.

Mary De Voe
Mary De Voe
Monday, September 4, AD 2017 1:31am

Science long ago proved through DNA that the newly begotten was an individual of the human species.
Roe v. Wade, the abortion decision, never proved, nor bore the burden of proof as required by law in a court of law that the newly begotten innocent human being in the womb was not a person deserving of all constitutional civil right to be represented by an attorney in a trial for his right to life.
How long, oh Lord, will these people infested by homicide take to be exorcised?
CAM: Princess Diana was correct in that porn is a third person in the marriage bed. With fornicators before marriage, there are always four persons in the marriage bed, two fornicators and a married couple.

Mary De Voe
Mary De Voe
Monday, September 4, AD 2017 9:24am

The virtue of charity must be chosen in free will. Everything else is extortion and robbery. I speak of sanctuary cities and illegal immigration. The Peace of Jesus Christ does not diminish nor does it eradicate the sovereign person’s right to self-defense and self-preservation for himself and his neighbor.

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