Thursday, March 28, AD 2024 7:25pm

Balderdash

Erin Manning at And Sometimes Tea gets it:

 

I’m seeing a new talking point about Scandal 2.0 emerge among some of the more left-leaning or progressive Catholics whose writings I see in various places on the Internet (including in comment boxes; I’m always willing to chat with anybody who is willing to be civil). The talking point goes like this: No, the Scandal doesn’t have anything to do with gay men being ordained to the priesthood, and the sexual harassment, abuse, or rape of boys isn’t a homosexual act. Rape is about power, and victims are usually people the rapist has access to, so since priests really only have access to boys more boys were harmed than girls. Blaming gay men or same-sex attraction is really just a form of bigotry, usually only indulged in by right-wingers who vote Republican and commit other horrible crimes.

I think the technical term for this sort of thinking is: balderdash.

Go here to read the rest.  Ignoring the homosexual component of the sexual abuse cover up in the Church is akin to ignoring the meat component of meat loaf.

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Philip Nachazel
Philip Nachazel
Saturday, August 25, AD 2018 4:57pm

Balderdash is putting it, well… politely.

I’d say they used several case’s of lipstick to dress up that pig.

Mary De Voe
Sunday, August 26, AD 2018 3:55am

Pope Francis ought to take “uncle ted” to the Vatican. For myself, I cannot see how any human being can do what “uncle ted” did and call himself Catholic, Sodomy is lust described as love…and at our expense. Defrock, laicize and excommunicate “uncle ted” after exorcising him.

Mary De Voe
Sunday, August 26, AD 2018 4:13am

Theodore McCarrick excommunicated himself in his lifestyle and by his sins.There is not power on earth that can change that since “uncle ted” never made a firm purpose of amendment in the Sacrament of Reconciliation.
The Vatican’s excommunication makes “uncle ted’s” excommunication official. “uncle ted” freely chose to leave the Catholic Church and the sacraments. “uncle ted” chose to love lust over Jesus Christ. Compassion and mercy are given to the truly repentant.

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Art Deco
Art Deco
Monday, August 27, AD 2018 4:19am

It seemed to me 15 years ago (I may be wrong) that there wasn’t much relationship between the theological orthodoxy of the incumbent ordinary and how common these problems had been in the local clergy bar that the most consistently rigorist dioceses (e.g. Grand Island) seemed to have had little trouble. It also seemed that the trouble was inversely related to the proportion of Irish clergy in a diocese (so that, for example, the Eastern-rite eparchies largely escaped trouble). There seemed to be regional hotspots as well, such as the southwest and New England. And, of course, there was documented variation by ordination cohort, with all but a few accused priests ordained sometime between 1925 and 1987 and the cohort with the most trouble being that ordained in 1970.

You recall that when the Bishop’s conference wanted to be lectured by someone in 2002, who was scheduled but Margaret Steinfels and some other putz of similar disposition. Margaret Steinfels’ idea of the exemplary bishop was Rembert Weakland, and she continued to defend him as a ‘good bishop’ even after his homosexuality, sexual misconduct, and embezzlement of diocesan funds was made public The Catholic left has a problem: they don’t viscerally object to sexual misconduct by clergy. However, a great many of them have the mentality of social workers if they don’t have the degree and certificate. The helping professions haven’t yet figured out the menu of rhetorical games and sophistries to employ to make use of considerations of juvenile welfare in a way they’d like, as a tool to attack ordinary men while protecting from injury homosexual men.

Michael Paterson-Seymour
Michael Paterson-Seymour
Monday, August 27, AD 2018 4:52am

Art Deco wrote, “It also seemed that the trouble was inversely related to the proportion of Irish clergy in a diocese…”

In Ireland, the clerical profession has long been a moyen de parvenir for those of low birth, limited talents and few other opportunities for advancement. Too many are pedestrian in point of learning, utterly lacking in the social graces and their fabled “Irish eloquence” deserts them in the pulpit.

The Church in Ireland has long abandoned the notion of “a scholar and a gentleman in every parish, as a centre whence civilisation might beam on the surrounding countryside.”

Art Deco
Art Deco
Monday, August 27, AD 2018 5:42am

In Ireland, the clerical profession has long been a moyen de parvenir for those of low birth, limited talents and few other opportunities for advancement.

People who actually fit that description would be in low level service employments after receiving the sort of schooling E.R. Braithwaite provided at the ‘secondary modern’ institution at which he was employed by the London County Council. At best, they might learn a skilled trade at a VoTech high school. They’re not going to be channeled in to academic secondary education and then put to work at age 19 studying philosophy and theology.

The Church in Ireland has long abandoned the notion of “a scholar and a gentleman in every parish, as a centre whence civilisation might beam on the surrounding countryside.”

I’m sure Mr. Casubon would have made a great vicar.

Michael Paterson-Seymour
Michael Paterson-Seymour
Tuesday, August 28, AD 2018 12:54am

Art Deco

I was thinking of the sort of person who might scrape a 2 (2) at a Redbrick University and go on to work for the Department of Work & Pensions (never the Treasury or the Foreign Office)

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