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Good Question

As Churchill said:  “The inher­ent vice of cap­i­tal­ism is the unequal shar­ing of bless­ings. The inher­ent virtue of Social­ism is the equal shar­ing of mis­eries.”   Except for the party elites who run the socialist utopia of course.

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c matt
c matt
Monday, September 10, AD 2018 3:03pm

I would almost say the South African white farmers fleeing to Russia, but SA is well on its way to socialism (or worse) if not there already, and they are fleeing genocide more than capitalism (or what’s left of it there).

Mary De Voe
Monday, September 10, AD 2018 7:04pm

Good question.

Clinton
Clinton
Monday, September 10, AD 2018 9:05pm

“Except for the party elites who run the socialist utopia of course”.

The perfect example of this is to be found in Venezuela, where Hugo
Chavez took that once prosperous nation and drove its economy
into the ground, all in the name of socialism. Today, for the average
Venezuelan, toilet paper is a luxury and bread unobtainable without
connections. Chavez made a dumpster fire of Venezuela’s economy,
but when he died, he died a billionaire.

Not only did Hugo die a billionaire, but his daughter Maria Gabriela
Chavez took her wealth and political connections and cornered the
market on the importation of rice, a cornerstone of the diet for
average Venezuelans — and promptly jacked up the price by 80%.
By most estimates she’s now the wealthiest person in Venezuela,
with a personal fortune of around $4.2 billion. Hungry Venezuelans
on the receiving end of her father’s socialism contemptuously refer
to her as “La Reina de Arroz”.

Steve Phoenix
Steve Phoenix
Tuesday, September 11, AD 2018 1:24pm

I am waiting breathlessly for the day when one of our illustrious members of our “free press” will put this question to “Bernie Sandahs” or the darling Ocasio-Cortez.

PM
PM
Tuesday, September 11, AD 2018 9:16pm

This question could be analogous to the Church after ‘clarification’.

Kurt
Kurt
Wednesday, September 12, AD 2018 2:19pm

I don’t know who is fleeing from where. A lot of refugees in Sweden from what I read and a lot of people left Chile under Pinochet.

But I have no dog in the socialism vs. capitalism contest. I take the third option — Christian democracy, with a respect for intermediary institutions like family, church, labor union, social organizations. Promotion of a social market economy. The legitimacy of social insurance developed under the lines of the Christian democratic model, etc.

Foxfier
Admin
Wednesday, September 12, AD 2018 2:32pm

Pretty much anything that chooses to identify by “democratic” gets a serious stink-eye from me– I’m far, far too familiar with being on the losing end of popularity contests.

There’s a reason I like that not all things are up for a vote.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Wednesday, September 12, AD 2018 3:13pm

I would almost say the South African white farmers fleeing to Russia, but SA is well on its way to socialism (or worse) if not there already, and they are fleeing genocide more than capitalism (or what’s left of it there).

South Africa has a very high homicide rate (similar to some of the Central American republics) and the danger to white farmers has been severe. That having been said, the general homicide rate is actually lower than it was 25 years ago, though not getting any better. The country’s economic performance has been disappointing and it hasn’t gained any ground on the affluent West in the last 20 years). It lost ground from 1976 to 1998). The current president has been talking property seizures. That having been said, private enterprise currently accounts for about 63% of all investment in South Africa. There’s a mess of state enterprise, but it’s largely legacy enterprise.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Wednesday, September 12, AD 2018 3:16pm

Kurt’s fancies he’s arguing with Herbert Spencer, George Barton Cutten, and Ayn Rand. They’re dead, Kurt. They were regarded as somewhat outre when they were alive.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Wednesday, September 12, AD 2018 3:18pm

The legitimacy of social insurance developed under the lines of the Christian democratic model, etc.

Where, Kurt?

T. Shaw
T. Shaw
Thursday, September 13, AD 2018 6:02am

I read that Pinochet saved Chile from Marxist socialism, id est, organized brigandage.

The US once had (could not keep it – see Ben Franklin) a Constitutional republic. The elites had to amend the Constitution to allow for the income tax. The FDR-packed SCOTUS came out(?) with a ruling that “social security” is a tax, or it would be unconstitutional; same type ruling allowed ACA to ruin health care. In 1973, the SCOTUS somewhere found the “right” (not unalienable or endowed by God) to murder 63 million gestational Americans. Hopefully, with one or two additional Trump-appointed SCOTUS justices, America will slowly slip back to The Constitution.

Regarding Muslim terror, giving Americans’ farms to illegal aliens, or socialism in America: 300 million guns/eight trillion bullets ought to be sufficient. What me worry?

Re: “organized brigandage.” I saw it used by St. Augustine in The City of God. He wrote that government without justice is “organized brigandage.”

Kurt
Kurt
Tuesday, September 18, AD 2018 12:26pm

The legitimacy of social insurance developed under the lines of the Christian democratic model, etc.
Where, Kurt?</i?

Belgium

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