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This Should be Fun

I am hearing that the final document from , see paragraph 146 above, states that in the digital age there is a need to certify Catholic websites in order to verify if the groups are actually Catholic.

I can see it now:

Secretary:  Don, there is someone on the phone from the Vatican.

Don:  Hello, Don McClarey here.

Vatican Inquisitor:  You write for a blog calling itself The American Catholic?

Don:  Correct.

Vatican Inquisitor:  Who gave you the right to call yourself that?

Don:  The Lord God Almighty and the First Amendment to the US Constitution.

Vatican Inquisitor:  (Thinking:  I hate dealing with Americans!)  No Bishop has authorized you to use this name?

Don:  We never asked, and legally we do not have to do so.

Vatican Inquisitor:  We want you to stop using the name.

Don:  Who is we?

Vatican Inquisitor:  The Church.

Don:  All one billion of us?

Vatican Inquisitor:  Are you going to stop calling yourselves The American Catholic?

Don:  Well, for a formal answer I would have to consult with my co-bloggers but I am pretty sure that the answer would be no.

Vatican Inquisitor:  Would that be your final answer?

Don:  There might be an adjective tossed in before no.

Vatican Inquisitor:  In that case we might take legal action.

Don:  Just make sure that your attorneys contact me so I know who to counter sue.

Vatican Inquisitor:  (Thinking:  I really, really hate dealing with Americans!)  Hangs up the phone.

Secretary:  What was that about?

Don:  Nothing of consequence.  I am off to court, see you later.

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Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus
Sunday, October 28, AD 2018 4:41am

Ha! Ha! Ha! Love it!

Mary De Voe
Sunday, October 28, AD 2018 5:08am

Ain’t that the pot calling the kettle black

DonL
DonL
Sunday, October 28, AD 2018 5:21am

Great post Don.
I’m one who loves to see the deceitful games being played come right out into the open, where everyone can see, and no one can deny. (with any credibility)
It appears that Rome is seeking to extend the papal silence to all who would dare speak the truth that exposes or offends. (the very reason Christ was crucified, no?)

ExNOAAman
ExNOAAman
Sunday, October 28, AD 2018 5:22am

I suspect it will go as well as certifying Catholic colleges.
“There might be an adjective tossed in before no”
Oh, I’ve got to remember that line….once I stop laughing.
Great post .

Mary De Voe
Sunday, October 28, AD 2018 5:48am

More deflection from defrocking “uncle ted”.

Mary De Voe
Sunday, October 28, AD 2018 6:14am

I am thinking, how would the Vatican know what is Catholic? If the Vatican did not listen to the victims of clerical abuse, the Vatican will not listen to the voice of the faithful. Where is there dialogue? What nonsense. More deflection, “urgent” deflection

David WS
David WS
Sunday, October 28, AD 2018 6:23am

Perhaps another Americanism:
“Go ahead, make my day.”

T. Shaw
T. Shaw
Sunday, October 28, AD 2018 7:39am

Mac,

Is your “adjective tossed in” be a euphemism for expletives. Expletives would be my go-to.

You left out the part where the inquisitor commands, “Bring forth the instruments of torture.”

In conclusion, I’m with you, Mac.

Philip Nachazel
Philip Nachazel
Sunday, October 28, AD 2018 8:35am

Just one more question to Don.

Are you a Vatican…
or a Vatican’t?

Kurt
Kurt
Sunday, October 28, AD 2018 8:58am

Gee, just yesterday these folks were demanding that colleges that allowed Hillary Clinton to speak on campus be denied the right to call themselves Catholic.

Bob Kurland, Ph.D.
Admin
Sunday, October 28, AD 2018 10:44am

Thanks Don, for making my day. What’s the old saying? “It can’t happen here.” But it has.

Elaine Krewer
Admin
Sunday, October 28, AD 2018 11:21am

“The Catholic community and Catholic institutions should not honor those who act in defiance of our fundamental moral principles. They should not be given awards, honors or platforms which would suggest support for their actions.”

I think the operative words here are “should not HONOR” and “should not be given platforms which would suggest support for their actions.” I interpret this directive to mean that if a parish or Catholic institution were to sponsor, say, a public debate or candidate forum at which both pro-life and pro-abortion points of view were presented on an equal basis, for the purpose of informing the public and NOT endorsing any participant, that would be acceptable. But in the case of Catholic colleges “allowing” Hillary to speak, the question is whether they merely allowed Hillary to speak at an event that involved multiple speakers with different points of view, or whether they INVITED her to address an event as an honored guest. In most if not all cases, it was probably the latter.

Foxfier
Admin
Sunday, October 28, AD 2018 3:27pm

Out of respect for the authority of the Church, I’d probably avoid suggesting we go with the classic “nuts.”

Ezabelle
Ezabelle
Sunday, October 28, AD 2018 3:31pm

Too funny.
Well unless you are receiving funding from the Catholic Church itself, they have no business in your business. A good Catholic.

Here’s a thought- how about they go after those Institutions who are happily receive funding which comes from the Faithful’s pockets. Institutions operating under the “Catholic” guise but endorse everything which is counter to our Faith- cleaning out their own backyard would be a start. Put that McCarrick in a homeless shelter and stop feeding and clothing him. It’s mild penance considering..:

DJH
DJH
Sunday, October 28, AD 2018 4:57pm

“…could also a manage certification…”
.
I think we need a an official body whose job is to monitor the correct use of the language (in this case English; surely there are others)–oh, wait…

Philip Nachazel
Philip Nachazel
Monday, October 29, AD 2018 12:36pm

https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/vatican-looks-to-censor-lay-catholics

Maybe Mr. Shea will head the oversight committee. A new Gestapo.

Cassandra
Cassandra
Monday, October 29, AD 2018 6:31pm

Vatican Inquisitor: Who gave you the right to call yourself that?
Don: The Lord God Almighty and the First Amendment to the US Constitution.
Vatican Inquisitor: (Thinking: I hate dealing with Americans!) No Bishop has authorized you to use this name?
Don: We never asked, and legally we do not have to do so.

That’s a pathetic exchange of rubbish.

Have a gander at Ed Peters’ take on the canonical issues. This was written when Michael Voris was under fire for RealCatholicTV.com (long before the synod). Being in pro-life work, surely you’ve experienced the difference between what is civilly licit and canonically licit.

https://canonlawblog.wordpress.com/2012/01/03/the-first-thing-to-understand-about-the-aod-vs-vorisrctv-dispute/
https://canonlawblog.wordpress.com/2012/01/05/a-few-more-things-to-keep-in-mind-about-the-aod-and-vorisrctv/

It’s worth noting that permission is supposed to be obtained in advance of the use of “Catholic”, not merely defended after the fact.

I will grant you one thing though: your blog title does capture the matter properly. American first; Catholic second.

Cassandra
Cassandra
Tuesday, October 30, AD 2018 11:36am

Thirty years in law and the best you can do is: “Billy does it!”

Philip Nachazel
Philip Nachazel
Tuesday, October 30, AD 2018 12:27pm

Hummmm.

When the hierarchy of the Catholic Church begins to dismiss the Baltimore Catechism and the Catechism of the Catholic Church I will ponder a guess that it will be a welcomed event for the Cassandra’s of the world.

Who is Catholic?

Distortion of Truth is a pathetic end game no matter who is calling the play.
Unable to recognize Truth is why half of the Catholic Church in America believes that abortion on demand is not up for grabs. It’s a right for the woman to decide and to hell with Church teachings. Intrinsically evil doesn’t appear in their catechisms…go figure.

Cassandra I am not condemning you. I know that Catholic women voted the most pro-death abortion loving president in history TWICE.
How in God’s Holy name can they, without reconciliation, receive the Eucharist?

I guess they will find their own truth.
A Church of Mush.

God be with you Donald.

Cassandra
Cassandra
Tuesday, October 30, AD 2018 6:59pm

Your appeals to civil law are irrelevant for defense, but they do reinforce that your mindset is to react with an American mindset first, rather than a Catholic one. Instead of correcting a wrong, you dig in and attempt to justify it.

Ernst Schreiber
Ernst Schreiber
Tuesday, October 30, AD 2018 7:14pm

I’m sure the fine bloggers of The American Catholic would happily drop “Catholic: from the title

—after the National Catholic Reporter does it.

Art Deco
Art Deco
Tuesday, October 30, AD 2018 7:50pm

I wonder which diocese has hired Cassandra. Grant Gallicho got a job in the Cupich chancery.

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