Time to Spring Forward



Well, most of us “lose” an hour of sleep tonight.  Why?  Well to defeat the Hun of course!  Kaiser Bill has been dust for more than 79 years, but I am sure they are just trying to lull us into a false sense of security.


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  1. I’d rather have DST year round. But failing that, consistency with ST would be good too. I recall when I was working at an old GE Mark I BWR 4 in upstate NY that once in the spring and again in the autumn I would have to come into work at midnight at 0000 hours on Sunday and stay till 0400 hours to shepherd the old DEC VAX 6000 series plant process computer through the time change shift. The combination of a DEC VMS operating system and Fortran-77 application code just didn’t like clock changes at all. And the reactor operators in the control room never liked losing their display trace of average core thermal power. Just imagine what a loss of 1 hour in spring time and a gain of 1 hour in autumn does to the calculation of average core thermal power. Corruption of this display was unacceptable when an 800 MWe reactor is riding the green line at exactly 99.99 power. That was back when we did backups on magnetic tape cartridges. Young millennials today have no idea what they’re missing! 😀 They’re spoiled rotten.

  2. A late night weekend time shift is certainly easier for millions of alien time keepers, mllliins go machines that is, simple phones and meters too.
    I like it. There’s two of snow on the ground in New England and we’re starved for light during the waken day.

  3. I would keep DST but revert to the 20th century schedule where it started in early/mid April and ended in late October, to eliminate the dark mornings. I remember going to school in the dark at 8 am in January during the 1974-75 year round DST experiment and didn’t like that at all.

  4. I’d rather have DST year round.

    What latitude are you at? Where I was living in 1973 / 74 kids’ were wearing orange armbands and reflector tape because there were just enough cases of youngsters hit by cars in the dark morning walk to school that mothers got spooked.

    Like the 55 mph speed limit, the whole fandango saved about $1.95 worth of gasoline per year. That was an era when the lawyers making federal policy were either (1) not listening to economists or (2) listening only to John Kenneth Galbraith, who had a fetish for administered prices. Comprehensive wage and price controls, controls on the wholesale price of petroleum products, legal restrictions on what days you could purchase gasoline (in New York it depended on the terminal digit of your license plate), administrative allocation of petroleum products, regulatory mandates on auto emissions and fuel economy (which whiplashed auto manufacturers), the whole nine yards. Jimmy Carter sank a lot of effort into persuading Congress to replace some of this mess with schemes which at least respected the price system. (Carter was partial to subsidizing home insulation products, mass transit, and synfuels research). The simple solutions – market pricing of petroleum products, financing Interstates with tolls, financing general road maintenance with a motor-fuels excise, and slapping Pigou levies on industrial effluvia and plastic – were the things they refused to do.

  5. I remember those days also in New Hampshire when the kids were going to school…real dark in the morning. It was fine for those in my neighborhood for it was out in the sticks and no traffic but squirrels and skunks, but if it’s dark at your bus stop in a high traffic area it’s rather risky. Luckily no one ever got hurt.

    DavidWS, I agree. A little sunlight in north-central New Hampshire with 2 and half feet of snow would be a welcome sight in the midst of winter. Now that we changed the time for the spring yesterday I would vote to leave it like this year round.

  6. I’d rather have DST year round.

    No. What’s the point of keeping measurements if we just screw with the devices at random?

    In the spirit of compromise, I say just have business hours permanently shifted. Instead of 8-5, just have the standard be 7-4. Same effect and we keep the clocks accurate.

  7. “Circadian rhythm
    A circadian rhythm is a roughly 24 hour cycle in the physiological processes of living beings, including plants, animals, fungi and cyanobacteria.

    In a strict sense, circadian rhythms are endogenously generated, although they can be modulated by external cues such as sunlight and temperature.

    Circadian rhythms are important in determining the sleeping and feeding patterns of all animals, including human beings.

    There are clear patterns of brain wave activity, hormone production, cell regeneration and other biological activities linked to this daily cycle.” Wikipedia
    With emphasis on everything natural, many people believe that living the circadian rhythms are necessary to maintain good health

  8. I say just have business hours permanently shifted. Instead of 8-5, just have the standard be 7-4.

    That’ll go over real well.

  9. No more shifting. Keep it one way or the other.
    When we lived it the PI the locals were concerned that the school children would lose one hour every day from school because of DST.

  10. It isn’t changing, so get used to it.
    Suneise before 5 and sunset at 7:30 in June won’t go over well. We do this for a reason. Daylight time varies in the North a lot more than in the South.

  11. I’m mostly with Elaine, but I’d got to DST in late April and revert to ST in early October.

  12. Daylight Savings Time is what we end up when the federal government decides to intervene in energy policy.

    I was just getting used to having daylight in the morning. Ah well, it’s a small price to pay for the ability to have sunlight at 9:00 in the evening during the summer – something really helpful when trying to get kids to bed.

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