Folks here may be slightly familiar with the actress who urged that, out of fear of becoming pregnant while a law recognizing the personhood of humans who have developed to the point of having a detectable heartbeat is in effect (at least to the point of not allowing their direct execution without trial) women should not have sex.
After some very well phrased unpacking of meaning, a lady responding to the suggestion said this:
Her campaign also exposes modern feminism’s deeply flawed view of the relationship between men and women, seeing sex first and foremost as a bargaining chip or form of power that women hold over men, as if it ought to function primarily or even solely as a reward for men that women should withhold as a means of getting what they want — affirming and promoting the very anti-woman premise that feminists claim to oppose. And, like the overwhelming majority of activists who champion expansive abortion rights, Milano entirely ignores the existence of pro-life women, including those who were involved in passing the Georgia heartbeat bill, who presumably won’t be swayed or affected whatsoever by this boycott.
Finally, there is considerable irony in the fact that, after five decades, feminism has come back around to where social conservatives were standing the entire time — but now they believe that, in pushing their “boycott,” they’re somehow being transgressive.
Read the rest here.
The only thing I would have added is that, in reasonably designed surveys*, women are more opposed to abortion than men.
*folks here are probably familiar with my hobby-horse of wanting to see the questions used; it is amazing how often they frame “pro-life” in such a way that binding Catholic teaching is pro-abortion.
The passion shown by Milano and co. always makes me suspect that the real reason theses women are so bizarre, extreme and loud with their protests is not because they want “rights” over their bodies. The real reason is they want the law to justify the unjustifiable- the killing of a completely defenceless human inside of them who relied on them for growth and protection. And it is because they have indeed had an abortion themselves, and are hurting. And rather than face the damage of their choice, they would rather protest and yell to keep justifying their action, to admit their guilt and pain . When in actual fact, the only course to peace is recognition, remorse, repentance and healing. They yell to drown out the noise of their guilt. If only they would admit the damage abortion does to women.
Ezabelle-you nailed it.
The bizarre death/lust cult is now not engaging in intercourse because they fear they are losing the ability to kill their unborn children. In other words, if I can’t kill my child then why bother.
p.s. We’re already out breeding their side and not sending our kids to their indoctrination camps (public schools), but thanks for sending up the white flag. I thought the battle was going to last much longer.
*nod*
For many– if they admit that the kid is a real person, with rights and all, as human as they are….then they have done an utterly horrific thing.
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Ken-
did some math today, because that’s part of how I deal with being embarrassed when the baby is fussing. On the high end, the parish we were in has about 150 adults. That would require about 3 kids a year to hold even, playing on the safe side and guessing anybody who is through puberty is in the “adult” section, but calculating based on 20-70, giving 3 in any given year.
There were at LEAST five obvious babies, and two more that might have actually been under a year old but might have been slightly over a year.
Notable gap of younger-than-me adults, but given that college isn’t out that isn’t a surprise.
At least one other family with a mini-horde like ours, and all but one of the babies had a preschooler for an older sibling. (The currently popular “correct way” to do it is to not get pregnant until the elder is at least in kindergarten.)
I don’t know if this is some sort of simi-localized effect, or because the priests have been quite good every place we’ve been here, or just God looking out for fools, children and the USA– but I’m glad of it.
I forgot to say–
Ken, I’m not sure if “we” is our side or “we” as in your family and allies, but do you think there’s any interest in a basic “how to start home schooling” post for here?
“Because that’s part of how I deal with being embarrassed when the baby is fussing.” Foxfire I hear you. I hear you loud and clear. I’ve taken our toddler outside when he has fussed and a lovely Fijian priest told my husband after mass, recently, not to worry and stay put because the Church needs the young in the pews- they are the Church’s future. It’s difficult because of this “embarrassment” we somehow feel as mothers.
It becomes difficult when the older parishioners, who have forgotten what it’s like to have small children and who raised their children in a less stimulated era, give you looks because your child is restless and disrupts their prayer.
So I made it a point yesterday at mass to completely ignore, and even smile when a mother was juggling her brood- a crying baby and a preschooler who was yelling throughout Mass which was packed “ I’m bored and I want to go home!”- she stayed put and dealt with the children.
It’s so difficult taking children to mass some Sundays. But I’m persevering and you perservere also. It will be worth it. This is when pride is a good thing
“It becomes difficult when the older parishioners, who have forgotten what it’s like to have small children and who raised their children in a less stimulated era, give you looks because your child is restless and disrupts their prayer.”
Yeah, my bride and I got similar looks, although we were usually in the cry room. Amazing how some people forget what it is like to deal with a fussing child during Mass. My bride and I have not, and merely smile when we hear a wailing child, the smile of recognition!
“My bride and I have not, and merely smile when we hear a wailing child, the smile of recognition!” Amen Don
The only time anybody has given me issues, our second daughter was having an absolute ring-tailed, screaming fit and I had already taken them out of the crying room and out of the church. A teen followed me outside to say “we can still hear her, you know.”
I didn’t say anything nasty, but I suspect my look said “are you a complete idiot?”
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I try to make sure the kids don’t make it so anybody can’t participate in Mass. The three year old asking about the bells during the Consecration broke that rule because the priest had to fight to keep a straight face…. (our old parish either didn’t do it, or it wasn’t audible from the not-exactly-crying-room where we sat)
Foxfier, I, for one, would find a basic “how to start home schooling” post extremely interesting.
“The three year old asking about the bells during the Consecration broke that rule because the priest had to fight to keep a straight face” Ha!
One year, after a very long 2-hour Easter Vigil Mass, my third was so restless and beside her self with hunger that she yelled out just before Communion “I’m starving, can we go get some of that”. I then had to deal with telling the older ones to stop laughing.
“Who’s that man up on the T?” stage whisper from a 3 year old at his brother’s baptism.