Cardinal Burke does not agree with the Pope when it comes to one world government:
“Before the challenges of our time, there are those who propose and work for a single global government, that is, for the elimination of individual national governments, so that all of humanity would be under the control of a single political authority. For those who are convinced that the only way to achieve the common good is the concentration of all government in a single authority, loyalty to one’s homeland or patriotism has become an evil,” he said.
“The divine authority, in accord with the order written upon the human heart, does not make just and legitimate a single global government. In fact, the divine law illumines our minds and hearts to see that such a government would be, by definition, totalitarian, assuming the divine authority over the governance of the world,” he added.
The Cardinal said that the “sinful pride which inspires the pursuit of a single global government has been likened to the pride of our ancient ancestors, after the Deluge, who thought that they could unite heaven with earth by their forces alone, building the Tower of Babel.”
Go here to read the rest. One government of the entire globe is a chimera. If an effort were made to bring about this impossibility, authoritarian measures implemented with massive bloodshed would be the order of the day. PopeWatch thinks that a global government will continue to be one found only in science fiction, rather than reality. At least let us pray that this bad idea remains firmly in the realm of fiction. Ironically, if it did come about, no doubt Popes, far more clear thinking than our current Pope, would find themselves constantly at odds with it, just as the Papacy created the Holy Roman Empire, and then spent the next thousand years usually opposing the Emperors. Christ said His Kingdom was not of this world, and the folly that has often found a home in the Vatican when it comes to secular politics illustrates what our Savior was talking about.
The ancients made various attempts at one world governments: Babylonians, Persians, Greece and Rome. We know how those attempts turned out.
Who is more popular than Jesus?
On March 4th 1966 a Beatle thought so;
Imagine there’s no heaven
It’s easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people living for today
Imagine there’s no countries
It isn’t hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people living life in peace, you
You may say I’m a dreamer
But I’m not the only one
I hope some day you’ll join us
And the world will be as one
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people sharing all the world, you
You may say I’m a dreamer
But I’m not the only one
I hope some day you’ll join us
And the world will be as one
Songwriters: John Winston Lennon
“Christianity is on the decline,” he said.
With a one world government you can “bet your sweet bippy” that it would not be Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Philip: For what its worth I think I have to defend John Lennon a bit in his quote that the Beatles had become more popular than Jesus. I don’t believe he meant it the a way that they were BETTER than Jesus but only that they had become more popular with the younger generation than Jesus was. It is hard to fault him on that. I grew up with the Beatles with the first hit they came out with and I know first hand what I saw as the years went by: mobs and mobs of people wanting to see them, emulate them, play like them, BE them. Even I thought at the young age I was at the time that it had become ridiculous the way the crowds went nuts over them though I liked their music up to Rubber Soul. They went a bit off after that album. The whole Eastern religion thing turned me off after that.
Imagine was the most depressing song Lennon could ever ever had written. He was totally off the links with that. Imagine was written entirely in la la land.
Global governance is in direct opposition to the principle of Subsidiarity. Pope Pius XI called violation of this principle of Subsidiarity a grave evil…and so it it is.
Imagine is a horrible song. I rank it with Only the Good Die Young in its mockery of religion.
Pat Buchanan believes that the US is trying to be that one world government, but I think he has a warped viewpoint because he is an extreme isolationist.
Good points, Ordinary Catholic, though the popularity of Jesus sort of slipped from laying palms as He entered Jerusalem; then they voted instead for Barabbas (which facilitated the salvation of mankind.) Popularity is the addiction of despots, rebellious angels, self-centered celebrities, and leaders who sell and diminish sin and its consequences. It probably works against one’s eternal soul on judgment Day which searches for humility.
The ancients made various attempts at one world governments: Babylonians, Persians, Greece and Rome.
Am I being too literal-minded if I point out that Greece prior to Philip of Macedon was a collection of local city-states, that the Babylonian Empire extended only to the Fertile Crescent, that the Persian Empire did not extend beyond the Iranian plateau, the Fertile Crescent and Asia Minor, and that Rome enclosed the Mediterranean, not any other part of the civilized world?
Remember The Elders (Jimmy Carter, Mary Robinson, Desmond Tutu and sundry other public nuisances)? Globalony is appealing to the Davos set. The Davos set doesn’t think much of you.
Babylonians, Persians, Greece and Rome
They were close enough to world governments for their inhabitants. The Greek designation of “barbarian” for all non-Greeks was fairly typical for most of the ancient world: those outside our group simply don’t count. Alexander the Great came closest to establishing a universal state so far as the civilized world was known to the Greeks of his time. If he had lived into his fifties, instead of dying at 32, he likely would have conquered Carthage, and Italy and most of the other civilized areas in the West. The Diadochi dreamed of universal monarchy, even as they assured by their constant wars against each other that none of them could achieve it. The Roman universal state showed the limits of what could be accomplished at that time. The conquest of Gaul by Julius Caesar was a tour de force that none of his successors were able to replicate except in Britain and Dacia. Trajan came closest to conquering Parthia, but logistics, and his own mortality, worked against him.
OC.
I try to remind myself that people are mostly good. It’s their ideas and implementation of their ideas that can be generally bad. My eldest brother left for the Navy in when I was nine years old.
He passed the White album on to me.
At that time it was a big deal.
My folks disagreed.
I agree with you and Don L.
The cult of personality and love for popularity is a killer. The Holy Spirit can not be in union with prideful men.
Maybe a tad since under Alexander Greece was a definite contender for world dominion, and Babylon and Persia though not of the size of Alexanders empire, but for their period and location in human history, cities were the focal point of dominance. Mesopotamia is what mattered and was the ‘whole world’ to them AS in Rome the whole Mediterranean area was the civilized world though Rome also creeped up to the wilds of Britain and out to the Caspian Sea. Mediterranean meant the center of the Earth for the ancients. Its the world they knew and conquered.
Mediterranean meant the center of the Earth for the ancients.
In India and China? Don’t think so…
Art. Do I have to spell it out? We were talking about Greece, Persia, Babylon and Rome. Not India or China for pete’s sake. Okay Art Deco. You are right. There.
OC-
He won’t accept it. Just shrug and move on.
One government of the entire globe is a chimera. If an effort were made to bring about this impossibility, authoritarian measures implemented with massive bloodshed would be the order of the day.
So long as the globe holds the civilized world, that is true.
Got to daydreaming about at what point in space exploration and settlement a “world government” would make any sense, best I can come up with is there would have to be SEVERAL completely independent other civilizations that are relatively easy to reach. They can’t be locked away, they can’t be dependent on the Earth for anything…. not sure we’ll get there before the End, but it’s fun to try to imagine what point the governing requirements will be small enough, the speed of travel will be small enough and the prosperity will be high enough to make any sort of a unified world gov’t practical.
One of the few things that DS9 got right is when they showed teleporters making it so that anywhere on earth was a matter of walking to the nearest teleporter, so someone in San Fran can hop over to New Orleans for a quick lunch. (all free) With that kind of a situation, a one-world gov’t sort of makes sense. (Although DS9 also came as close to showing why this was A BAD THING….)
(Although DS9 also came as close to showing why this was A BAD THING….)
Indeed!
“for a quick lunch. (all free)”
As a former dish washer, I was always wondering who in the restaurant of Cisco’s father was in the back doing all the dishes for free? The economics of Star Trek, or rather the lack thereof, was the most far fetched thing about that sci fi series.
Let me get this straight. The Pope endlessly bitches and moans about a global economy, but thumps the tub for one world government. Being a leftist means not having to undertake the arduous task of making sure you’re consistent in your beliefs.
Forget the economics. What about the physics? For example: nobody does the dishes. You put the dishes and any table scraps back into the matter converter and it gets broken down into its subatomic components and converted into stored energy befor3 being reconstituted into whatever the next person orders.
Wanna have some real fun? Imagine a Star Trek/ Soylent Green mashup with McCoy playing the part of Detective Robert Thorn.
The primary issue is one of polity. With all the strife in the world I find it difficult to envision any identifiable polity upon which a global government would be founded, short of a dictatorship. The UN is not a real elective government. What mechanism is available to hold the UN accountable for its actions? The UN and the EU both look like they are the playthings of the global elites. Any legitimate globalist entity needs to have true grassroots support of, and accountability to, the polity over which it has jurisdiction.
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To me this will still be the case whenever the human race is capable of building large scale self supporting space settlements off the earth.
Art. Do I have to spell it out? We were talking about Greece, Persia, Babylon and Rome. Not India or China for pete’s sake. Okay Art Deco. You are right. There.
You started out talking about global government. Last I checked, India and China are located on this planet.
He won’t accept it. Just shrug and move on.
I can read an atlas.
But not, apparently, English.
Nobody else had the least bit of trouble understanding what OC was saying, and responding to the really obvious meaning.