PopeWatch: They Want a Schism

Father Z has an incisive post:


Sometimes I have to triage my time.  For example, I can do some reading about “chaos theory” or “fundamental force concepts”. On the other hand, I can read the transcript of a papal presser aboard an airplane.   Either way, I have to really strain to figure out what the heck anything means.

The National Catholic Register has a piece about the latest surreal papal plane presser (PPP) HERE.

I’ll rant a little.

A lot of people are writing to me about a strange comment made by Francis during the PPP about “schism”.

It seems that Francis said:

I am not afraid of schisms, I pray that there will be none, because what is at stake is people’s spiritual health. Let there be dialogue, let there be correction if there is an error, but the schismatic path is not Christian.

This is preceded and followed by various ramblings which drive me back to the relative ease of deciphering the interplay of weak and strong forces in quantum  physics.

Did, as my questioners ask, Francis say that “schisms don’t scare me!”, as if to say, “Bring on the schisms!”?

I doubt it.

The more reasonable explanation is that Francis just sort of talks.  He has a microphone and he rambles.

I think what he meant to say, probably, is that he doesn’t think that schisms will happen.  He’s not worrying about it.

Whether that’s what he really wants or not is another matter.  If you read biographies, there is a history of division when he is involved.  Also, he has probably intentionally fed energy to the Anglophone movement to brand loyal critics and faithful Catholics as “schismatic”.

Every self-respecting and faithful Catholic has an innate horror of schism, which is a manifest violation of charity on many levels that ultimately leads to heresy.

That said, “schism” is a term which the New catholic Red Guards have instrumentalized in order to provoke something they hope for.

They, in fact, are the ones who want the schism.   In mock horror of “schism”, they seeks to bring it about.

Libs, the Left, have had schismatic tendencies for decades, during the pontificates of John Paul II and Benedict.  Hence, “schism” is their default position.  This is where they automatically tend.  This is, as a result, how they see people on the other side of the issues.  They were perpetually schismatic for decades and still are.  Hence, every body else is.

What they are doing started out from these hard-wired impulses.  Now, however, their version of catholic Deep State has coordinated their messaging.  The Central Committee of El Pueblo, as it were, has seen the potential that “schism” talk can have. Remember, they are all about dividing, not unifying, breaking, not building.  So, the CC of El P has given a signal to the troops in the streets, the street thugs of the New catholic Red Guards.  The NcRGs are now marching up and down the streets, pumping their arms up and down with copies of Amoris and Laudato, confronting anyone and everyone who questions the movements of the pontificate.  They specialize in targeting certain figures for vituperation and intimidation.  They call for their firing.  They call their bishops to tattle and to bully.  They drum the drums and stoke the fires of conflict relentlessly.  They spread Disinformation, intended to deceive.

What they hope will happen is that those conservative or traditional Catholics with whom they are now incessantly picking a fight with fighting words like “schism” will eventually get fed up and will make imprudent statements and gestures out of frustration. 

Go here to read the rest.  In regard to cries of schism, here is what faithful Catholics should say, echoing Saint Athanasius who fought against the Arian heresy that came close to taking over the Church:

“May God console you! … What saddens you … is the fact that others have occupied the churches by violence, while during this time you are on the outside. It is a fact that they have the premises – but you have the Apostolic Faith. They can occupy our churches, but they are outside the true Faith. You remain outside the places of worship, but the Faith dwells within you. Let us consider: what is more important, the place or the Faith? The true Faith, obviously. Who has lost and who has won in the struggle – the one who keeps the premises or the one who keeps the Faith? True, the premises are good when the Apostolic Faith is preached there; they are holy if everything takes place there in a holy way …

“You are the ones who are happy; you who remain within the Church by your Faith, who hold firmly to the foundations of the Faith which has come down to you from Apostolic Tradition. And if an execrable jealousy has tried to shake it on a number of occasions, it has not succeeded. They are the ones who have broken away from it in the present crisis. No one, ever, will prevail against your Faith, beloved Brothers. And we believe that God will give us our churches back some day.

“Thus, the more violently they try to occupy the places of worship, the more they separate themselves from the Church. They claim that they represent the Church; but in reality, they are the ones who are expelling themselves from it and going astray. Even if Catholics faithful to Tradition are reduced to a handful, they are the ones who are the true Church of Jesus Christ.

They have the buildings of the Church for a moment in time.  We have the Faith for all eternity,

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  1. From the Christopher Lamb twitter feed linked to by Fr. Z,”The “dubia” submitted by Cardinal Burke and others did not invite dialogue, but asked the Pope to give “yes or no” answers.” Is the awful truth just that the pope can’t give yes or no answers? To anything. Ever. Yes or no means rigidity in his mind. Even these damn airplane interviews; try to read them (maybe bad translations) they come across as the ramblings of a frail old mind. Who, but the biggest Francis sack holders, read these things and believe them to be profound.
    Francis’ minions would love schism, but are fools if they think there is a chance of that happening. The sissies are weary because we aren’t quitting the fight. Christopher Lamb notes that Cdl Burke will be hosting a &500 per head priests’ summit and gathering of seminarians. It’ll be packed. The limp wristed left knows this.

  2. “Pope Francis’ minions would love schism” Agreed, but those of us who love the Church will never leave her since there is no other place to go. Chances are if and when the ‘minions’ leave the Church and still declare themselves Catholic, they will convince the world that WE are the schismatics and that WE left the Church. Kinda like the Democrats, they accuse you of doing what they themselves have done.

  3. I firmly believe this is orchestrated nonsense from the libs. It seems rather evident to me that the winds are blowing strongly against the pontiff. I don’t know how it will all play out, but the resistance is growing stronger and more vocal.

    Ordinarycatholic, I don’t think the militant left will ever leave the Church. There already is a “Liberal catholic church”. Have you ever heard anyone discuss this group? No, because once you leave the Church no one really cares about you. They have a “parish” in my neighborhood. I don’t think they have a dozen people showing up for services.

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