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Neo-Confederates and The Far Left

My friend Paul Zummo has an interesting post at his blog Letters from Cato, on the odd alignment of some interests between Neo-Confederates and the hard Left:

 

Neo-Confederates and others who have a more sympathetic understanding of the Confederacy don’t generally agree on much with far-left Progressives. And yet they do have at least one thing in common: they share a revisionist interpretation of the Civil War generally and Abraham Lincoln specifically. Both downplay the significance of the Civil War and the elimination of the scourge of slavery, and both portray Lincoln as a typically racist white man who didn’t really care all that much about the plight of slaves and whose interest in emancipation was purely part of a larger effort to preserve the Union and win the war.

In my life I have spilled a metric ton of digital ink arguing that this is an egregiously mistaken or warped view of American history, so I’ll address these inaccuracies briefly. First of all, with regards to the cause of the war, yes it was about slavery. One only has to read the documents produced by the secessionist states and speeches from the likes of Alexander Stephenson to understand this. The idea that tariffs or some other underlying economic motives were factors is frankly absurd. Lincoln and Douglas spent seven debates in Illinois arguing about popular sovereignty as it relates to whether territories should be able to choose whether or not slavery would be legal as they moved to statehood. Tariffs did not come up. Nor are they mentioned much in the articles of secession.

It is true that Lincoln and the union government did not engage in war to eliminate slavery, and many if not most union soldiers didn’t care one way or the other too much about the issue. And the same is also generally true of confederate soldiers. Yet there is no serious proof that the ultimate precipitating cause of the division between north and south was anything other than slavery. Once the war started the men were fighting for their country (in the north) or for their homeland (in the south). But why were they fighting to begin with? Surely not tariffs.

And this leads us to Lincoln and emancipation. First of all, it is true that Lincoln was not an abolitionist per se, though he was adamantly opposed to slavery. And his animating purpose at the outset of the Civil Was was the preservation of the union at any costs, including the potential of chastened seceded states returning and keeping slavery. But as the war wore on, Lincoln saw the opportunity to emancipate slaves and he took it. In part it was a war measure, but he also saw it as the right thing to do, and so overruled practically his entire cabinet in issuing it.

Go here to read the rest.  History is always subject to analysis and interpretation but finally, as John Adams noted, facts are stubborn things.  Any movement which attempts to deny the “stubborn things” of history is inherently untrustworthy.

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Art Deco
Art Deco
Wednesday, June 24, AD 2020 5:18pm

I’d like someone they cannot cancel to make an eloquent defense of public art and all of it.

Ernst Schreiber
Ernst Schreiber
Wednesday, June 24, AD 2020 5:49pm

Ain’t nobody can’t be cancelled. ‘Cept maybe Trump.

And it’s not like they’ll listen to him.

Foxfier
Admin
Wednesday, June 24, AD 2020 5:57pm

The stupid in that tweet, it’s painful….

The people who were actually freed from slavery having “input”– to the point of buying the @#$@# thing, and marching in celebration of the official installment– is blacks not having input.

Dear heaven. What a double-plus ungood abuse of language.

Tito Edwards
Admin
Wednesday, June 24, AD 2020 7:54pm

I was wondering where Paul was. I’ve been checking out his old blog waiting to see him blog again.

Letters from Cato eh?

Ernst Schreiber
Ernst Schreiber
Wednesday, June 24, AD 2020 9:20pm

“Blacks too fought to end enslavement.”

Yeah, there was a beautiful monument in Boston to one whole regiment of those blacks, the first such raised during the war. The mob of howling ignoramuses you’ve been abetting and making excuses for vandalized for vandalized it.

Paul
Admin
Wednesday, June 24, AD 2020 11:01pm

Thanks Don.

And Tito, every six months or so I get animated enough and have just enough free time to write a blog post.

Ernst Schreiber
Ernst Schreiber
Thursday, June 25, AD 2020 12:08am

Random thoughts whilst sipping Maker’s Mark (because Larceny wasn’t on sale this week):

Obviously the problem with the statue is the slave figure is in a position of supplication. If we commissioned a statue of Nat Turner slaughtering women and children (“Nat Turner confessed to killing only one person, Margaret Whitehead, whom he killed with a blow from a fence post,”) would that assuage the mob? What if we threw in an obviously rich white male plantation owner? You know, for appearances sake?

Should Harper’s Ferry be renamed Brownsville? (and d*mn if John “Pottawatamie” Brown doesn’t encapsulate and personify America at this moment, just like he did 160 years ago.)

How much white blood was spilled by whites because of slavery? How much more needs to be shed to satisfy the aggrieved?

Since voluntary segregation is on the rise, can we celebrate Booker T. Washington again? What about Liberia?

What would Henry Jones Sr. think about morons who tear down statues compared to goose-stepping morons who burn books?

Michael Dowd
Michael Dowd
Thursday, June 25, AD 2020 3:33am

IMO the civil war was all about slavery which was considered the key the South’s economic well being and survival or rather the well being of the elites.

The same is true today as large corporations move production to low or slave wage countries. What’s the real difference between the attitude of slave owners before the Civil War and after. Slave owners had to supply shelter and food. Big corporations do the same thing where they can. Most folks in the world are wage slaves. Yes, they have freedom but how much is it worth? Not much if we consider the inertness of the general public to the scamdemic and BLM.

Most folks don’t want freedom; they want security. And unless they wake up and fight for they will get neither.

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